It seems that you and Reagan very easily forget the demand-side of the 
employment equation.  Unemployed people won't work for a wage that is not 
life-sustaining.  That is, the pay for these jobs isn't good enough to allow 
somebody to buy a house, feed his children, and do other things to get by in 
life.
    The problem with illegal immigrant work is that much of their money goes 
back home, principally, to Mexico, where the wages earned in the US are 
enough to provide for the family in Mexico.  An illegal immigrant does not 
pay taxes.  An illegal immigrant may live with many other illegal immigrants 
somewhere just long enough to support himself for food and shelter until he 
has made enough to live better by any other means, legal or not.
    The problem with this is that employers find this incredibly cheap 
source of labor and exploit it to the disadvantage of American workers. If 
the wage were raised to a legal and acceptable level, there would be no 
shortage of labor.  Of course, there are other effects of this, but illegal 
employment is the end effect of low wages.
    I don't support allowing Mexican workers in because it negatively 
affects America.  I think it makes America weak, it undermines the 
lawfulness that this country enjoys. The refusal of immigrant workers to 
follow American law is enough to warrant sending them back to their own 
country.
   This is a classic struggle of classes.  The rich benefit from very poor, 
the middle class gets squeezed out.  This effect is detrimental to the US, 
and to more than 90% of the population.  Classic capitalism must be 
regulated or the end result is monopoly.  We are in the very midst of that 
happening now.

- Matt



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gruss Gott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Worst Immigration Argument Ever!


>> RoMunn wrote:
>> Which confirms my fear that the "secure the border" movement is grounded 
>> in
>> racism and xenophobia, if not outright hatred.
>>
>
> Totally agree.  As I've said all along, America would be completely
> stupid to turn away anyone who'd like to work hard.  This includes
> laborers and PhD candidates.
>
> "Are great numbers of our unemployed really victims of the illegal
> alien invasion, or are those illegal tourists actually doing work our
> own people won't do? One thing is certain in this hungry world: No
> regulation or law should be allowed if it results in crops rotting in
> the fields for lack of harvesters."
>
> Gov Reagan, 1977
>
> 

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