I personally don't find it unreasonable that a soldier would want to
know if he can shoot back. But what do I know? Check with Tim on that.
The other concern I have heard raised is that nobody wants to
replicate the fiasco in Sarejevo. Which sounds like a plan to me too.
Let's avoid another Sarejevo by all means.b

On 8/20/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll fill in for Gruss here and say:
> "So France, who was pushing so hard for this ceasefire and promised to be a
> huge troop supporter of it has shown their true colors by sending far (FAR)
> fewer troops and calling on the EU and UN to define when they can defend
> themselves. Basically, they are afraid of doing the job laid out in the
> ceasefire."
>
>
> > The refreence is in Gruss' article:
> >
> > Those who arrived Saturday were de-mining teams and military engineers
> > who would focus on clearing unexploded ordnance from large swaths of
> > south Lebanon, he said.
> >
> > The absence of US troops may be a false argument, but hey, I was just
> > trying to fight fallacy with fallacy ;) The guys who landed were not
> > intended to strike fear into anyone. I did misread one thing though --
> > it *was* 10, with 150 more scheduled.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > On 8/20/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > as opposed to how many US troops? Hmm?
> >> That is a false argument as the US probably has more troops deployed
> >> under
> >> the UN banner than any other single country. But that's not the point
> >> here,
> >> is it. The US was specifically excluded from the troop deployment so as
> >> not
> >> to seem unduly biased. Of course, because the EU countries are so afraid
> >> of
> >> going in where they can be hurt, the UN troop list is being filled with
> >> countries who are publicly against Israel. Makes for a real peace,
> >> doesn't
> >> it.
> >> And the UN has said time and again they are not there to disarm Hizballah
> >> as
> >> the ceasefire specified. The French have said the same. So what was this
> >> ceasefire about again??
> >>
> >> Oh, the news does not say ordinance experts, just officers. I must have
> >> missed the ordinance reference but again it comes to the question of the
> >> reason they are there. The ceasefire specifies that they are there to
> >> disarm
> >> Hizballah, keep them from re-arming and keep the border. They have
> >> already
> >> said they will not do 1, have not even tried to do 2, and we'll see 3
> >> when
> >> the other Muslim troops get there. 15,000 troops expected with most of
> >> them
> >> being from governments who are all for the destruction of Israel.
> >> Ah, Love the UN.
> >>
> >> > Frankly, 150 troops -- not 10 --  trained in detection of unexploded
> >> > ordinance seems like not a bad place to start. It may have it's
> >> > drawbacks I suppose, but as opposed to marching the troops through
> >> > Baghdad and them moving HQ to Tampa, well... yanno. Fresh eyes ;)
> >> >
> >> > On 8/20/06, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> in all fairness, they are stretched militarily already. they might be
> >> >> running low on chefs to keep the troops fit and fed.
> >> >>
> >> >> On 8/19/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> > in Lebanon by landing 2 rubber dinghies bristling with 5 troops
> >> >> > each.
> >> >> > It's go time, French style.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> > French soldiers land in Lebanon as first reinforcement of UN force
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > south
> >> >> >
> >> >> > August 19, 2006 - 16:15
> >> >> >
> >> >> > By: TODD PITMAN
> >> >> >
> >> >> > NAQOURA, Lebanon (AP) - French soldiers landed in Lebanon on
> >> >> > Saturday,
> >> >> > the first reinforcements for an expanded UN peacekeeping force
> >> >> > tasked
> >> >> > with keeping the truce in the Israel-Hezbollah conflict.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Two inflatable dinghies carried the first of nearly 50 troops ashore
> >> >> > from two French warships anchored in the Mediterranean near the
> >> >> > headquarters of the United Nations Interim Force In Lebanon, or
> >> >> > UNIFIL, in Naqoura, about five kilometres from the Israeli border.
> >> >> > Two
> >> >> > French military helicopters hovered over the rocky, emerald green
> >> >> > bay
> >> >> > where the peacekeepers landed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://www.680news.com/news/international/article.jsp?content=w081955A
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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