Well, Hizballah and Syria (and by extension Iran) are already working HARD to 
take down the government of Lebanon. Iran is succeeding in taking down the 
people and what little government Iraq has. Hamas is launching rockets into 
Israel every day (truce? what truce) and they're being funded by 'someone'...
We're rather close to the middle east meltdown and rather than look at all this 
realistically, we're saying statements like that. The writing is on the wall 
and it does not matter who is in office, the words will stay the same. You 
think this is all Bush's fault? I've got a bridge to sell you then.
Has the administration lied? Hell yes. Does it change the facts that there are 
governments out to destroy anyone that does not follow their 'creed'? Not in 
the least. This has been an issue before Bush and will be one after him. The 
question is if we can look past him to see what's coming our way.

>I no longer believe any claim made by unnamed members of this
>administration. As for what happens if we pull out -- my question is
>so what?

Lets look at the so what:
Iran will massacre hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's.
The Kurds will succeed from Iraq to form Kurdistan, pissing off the Turks.
The Kurds will F.I.G.H.T. Iran, Iraq, Turkey and just about anyone else trying 
to take them down.
Lebanon will fall to Hizballah and another war will happen between them and 
Israel. 
Hamas will still be attacking Israel on a daily basis
Saudi Arabia will either Join with Iran or beg us for help. 
The UN will still do nothing about anything
Russia and China will still block any movement against the players in the 
middle east (other than Israel) because it hurts the US
Oil will SHOOT to 100 or more (unless that new Israeli oil tar process is put 
into play)
The press will continue to say that its all our fault.

So screw them all and lets leave. I mean, we don't have to baby sit those who 
want to just kill themselves and others, do we? 

Oh, and welcome back the practice of women as third class citizens. 

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