That's an over simplification and smacks of assumption and innuendo.  
Forget the foreign policies and all of that.  What Howard is talking 
about is freedom. Freedom is not defined as the way America has it's 
freedom.  Jon was the one who quoted our Declaration of Independence 
which outlined the principles on which this country and modern democracy 
was founded.  It doesn't say anything about each person should be given 
tax breaks, social security, or even that society live in a capitalist 
system.  It defines that which man craves; freedom.  It talks about 
giving power to the governed, not those that govern.  If that system of 
government is based on Islamic principles, fine.  But have the system in 
place so that if the government violates those basic self evident 
truths, then it is ultimately the people that decide, not one, two, or 
even a small group to determine that.  Those conditions exist throughout 
that region and if our goal is to help bring down those regimes and help 
that country establish a government that serves those people best, then 
I am 100% for it.  And I think that's what we are doing.  I've said it 
before, we should enact the policies that were enacted after WW2 to help 
rebuild those nations so that they can be free from corruption and the 
people can conduct their lives without interference from their 
government and live as a free people.  I think that those are principles 
worth fighting for.

Michael Corrigan
Programmer
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Angel Stewart 
  To: CF-Community 
  Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 9:49 AM
  Subject: RE: jihad for kids .. wheeee


  Uh huh.

  And the analysts that have pointed out various US Foreign policies 
that
  perhaps weren't totally on the up and up with these middle eastern
  countries are all full of sh**.

  Because the US way is the right way, and if you aren't doing things 
like
  the US then your way of life is obviously wrong and you're an enemy.

  Yeah.
  Ok.

  And an attitude like that will do absolutely nothing to feed existing
  resentment, or cause new resentment.
  Uh huh.

  Keep the blinders on..if you remove them reality might send you into
  shock.

  -Gel



  -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

  This attitude has nothing to do with Sept. 11.

  Sept. 11 happened because a megalomaniac, driven by his own ego, has
  decided to use religion to stir up hate. It happened because fascist
  countries like Saudi Arabia oppress their people, which creates
  resentment. Hateful people, in order to obtain more wealth and power 
for
  themselves, take advantage of this hate and brainwash people into
  thinking their poverty and their oppression is the fault of the United
  States. But if these people lived in a free and open society, the
  resentment wouldn't exist. They couldn't be stirred up to resentment 
of
  the United States because they would be too busy trying to create 
wealth
  and a better life for themselves and their families. Democratic
  societies, while never perfect, are by far more stable societies.

  H.
  
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