Another term for it is Manifest Destiny.

H.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 1:31 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: jihad for kids .. wheeee


That's been the stance of the US since it's very begining.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created 
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable 
Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of 
Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted 
among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, 
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these 
ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to 
institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and 
organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to 
effect their Safety and Happiness."

When Bush said you are either for us or you are against us, he was 
saying the same thing, just with different words. If the people do not 
want or have the ability to alter or abolish it themselves, then it 
becomes this peoples duty to defend itself.

I think that form of government Thomas Jefferson spoke of, today is 
extreme Islamic fundamentalism. It was communism yesterday, and facism 
before that. I think Bush is standing up for the right thing here, I 
however am still unconvinced of his ability to do it right in the long 
run. If Bush decides to start a greater conflict, I hope he realizes 
that he wont be the president to end it. It's going to take a long time. 
I would say that, compared to the governments that supported communism 
and facism in the past, though were much tougher than the fundamental 
Islamic nations are today. That however is bound not to last. To sit by 
and watch as one of these nations becomes powerful would be a mistake.

jon

Benjamin Falloon wrote:
> wow. Are you really right? Is your way the 'right' way?
> 
> So what you're saying is essential "it's our way or the highway"?
> 
> What happens if they choose the highway? Do they get the bomb?
> 
> Benjamin
> 
> 



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