I am unsure if I disagree or agree with this. I am a firm believer in freedom. I am not someone who is so culturally PC that I think that in Saudi its ok for women to be oppressed because its their culture - its wrong everywhere, even if a culture dictates it and has historically for millenium.
We have an obligation to opressed people. If we didn't, I and many of my family members would no longer exist. But I am unsure if the tyranny has to do with the type of rule or has to do with the rulers. My brother lived in a kibbutz in israel - a socialist society, and i don't think anyone was really opressed - but I suppose it was a democratic socialist society, so maybe that doesn't count. I can remember reading about good rulers- kings who cared about their constiuents and didn't opress them. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 6:59 AM Subject: RE: jihad for kids .. wheeee > Before Sept. 11, there would be rallies in Kabul supporting the Taliban. Of > course, the people would show up and cheer. > > After the U.S. destroyed the Taliban, people were dancing in the street. > > Nobody, except the oppressors, want to live in an oppressive society. All > people want to be free. It's just human nature. > > Obviously, we're right. We're right to the point that there is no logical > argument against it. All people want to be free. And the U.S. has a moral, > ethical obligation (always has and has almost always, until now, failed in > the obligation) to help all people, the world over, become free. > > Freedom is right. Tyranny is wrong. It's that simple. > > H. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 10:53 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: jihad for kids .. wheeee > > > wow. Are you really right? Is your way the 'right' way? > > So what you're saying is essential "it's our way or the highway"? > > What happens if they choose the highway? Do they get the bomb? > > Benjamin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 4:37 PM > Subject: RE: jihad for kids .. wheeee > > > > It's issues like this that have turned me from a fairly moderate person > when > > it comes to foreign policy toward the middle east, to a down-right hawk. > > > > I've ranted about this before -- and Beth even agreed with me (well, most > of > > it, she said) -- "They will like us when we win." > > > > We are in for long-term trouble if we don't put a stop to this sort of > > propaganda now. And the best way to do that is show our enemies that we > mean > > business, so that our near enemies (the Saudis, for example), get the > > message. > > > > I don't think the middle eastern countries really got the message after > > Afghanistan -- we mean business. Either you join the modern world, become > a > > free-market democracy, with full rights for all people, or you face our > > wrath. > > > > There is no more room for making nice with the Palestinians. If the > > Palestinians are serious about obtaining a homeland -- something I support > > under the right circumstances -- then they must reform themselves. They > must > > embrace our (and Israel's) values -- by that I mean, the rule of law, > > freedom, a market economy. > > > > It is time that we start treating countries that do not share our values > as > > either enemies or potential enemies. It is essential if we are ever going > to > > create a peaceful world. > > > > Fascism (which is what counties like Saudi Arabia are) and communism are > > systems of government and economics that are totally antithesis to our > own. > > We must treat them as such from now on. The formally politically correct > > attitude we once took toward governments that differed from us ("we do our > > thing and you do yours because there is no right or wrong government") has > > no place in the post-Sept. 11 world. We are right. Anything that conflicts > > with our values (rule of law, freedom, market economy) is wrong. It's that > > simple. > > > > H. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
