On 3/23/07, Jim D wrote:
....
> On everything, no - of course not.  But blind, ignorant extremism in any
> form just plain pisses me off.  I'll gladly study up to fight it where I
> find it - especially when I know something about the topic at hand.
>
> And, just so we're clear: what you think doesn't enter into it.

Just to be clear, what you think /does/ enter into it, which is why
fighters such as yourself are so dangerous.  :-)

You're biased, Jim!  Not nearly as bad as Nick, but still.

The benchmarking links were all bad :-/  but I thought it was funny
that the entry from OSx86 re: 10.5 says "Note: requires a real mac"

How does my argument of "same hardware, better testing" do?

What did my argument of "a set configuration makes a difference" do?
E.g. Dave's link about DVD drives?

Are you really going to type with a straight face that knowing the
target doesn't make for a more optimized delivery/execution?

I think Dave's point, that it's "not the same" has some merit.  Even
from a "but it's all the same basic parts" standpoint.

I'm one of those brave souls who tried to put OSX on a PC.

Only wanked for a bit on it, cuz that was real fun, and I have work
to do... :-) but anyways, it's not like installing BSD on an x86 ;-)

There are all kinds of crazy little "gotchas", which lead me to
believe that a "real mac" might indeed function quite a bit
different from a Faux Mac.

I was unable to do it in under a couple of hours.  I have a mac
to use, so it wasn't a need, just a want.  :-))

I think the point that Dave is getting at is that it's a different
experience/world, on the Mac side.  One that many people
find to be "better" than the equiv PC experience.  I know if
I had to choose between Vista and OS X, I'd go OS X.

But I like SSH, and open source, and BSD, and powerful
operating systems.

Course, if I had to choose between vista and linux, I'd go
linux.  That's what's going on *this* bad boy I'm typing on,
whenever I get around to the next wipe.  Hell, maybe I'll
try installing OS X...  Should be a snap by now, neh? ;-)

Just because I have plenty of windows machines, and I've
wanked with windows plenty...  and it's not really free, no
matter how it appears.  OS X might be more free, I dunno,
but the underlying stuff is, no doubt.  That *stokens* me.
*That* is the direction I want things to go.

Thus, I "like" Apple better than Microsoft.  As Jim "likes"
Microsoft better than Apple.

I wish I was an orator...  *sigh*  Nick and Dave are rabid,
perhaps even fanbois (LOL, sorry dudes)--  It's fun to
argue sides, personally I think I want a world with both,
I wouldn't want Apple to take over--  I've seen what it's
like when there is too much power in one place...

Eh.  Yeah, I think time will evolve both, and we'll see
what happens, but I wanna give props to Apple and
OS X-- It truly was innovative, and pretty swell.

How many years did it take for Vista to get here?
Where is my DB driven file system?!?!?  ;-)

OS X is ALIVE!  Wooters, I love it.  Great stuff.

Like this age old debate!  Crazy how it's morphed over
the years...  crazy how I've morphed over the years...

=]


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