really? My son was sort of pushing the pit from side to side, definitely playing, but roughly. The pit had a clear shot to bite him if she really felt threatened. I did not consider either my son or the pit to but outside the bounds of playing. Interesting that you would say that.
The Pyrenee, now, I have never heard her growl.... she has not been with us since she was a puppy though. She is a Humane Society dog; that is why I said probably Pyrenees mix. She looks just like the pictures on the AKC site but is a pale yellow instead of white. She might have been about two when I got her. She guards the house though, for sure. When I forgot the key to the courtyard at the other house and had to climb the wall, she definitely came to check that out. A good dog but it's a pain to walk her because of her size, ayup. Anyway, I have no doubt she thought she was protecting my son, even though I disagree. What I was wondering was whether in future dog fights we should NOT intervene. It sounds I am hearing no? The ER suggested a hose but that last fight was in the living room so that would not have been an option ;) Thanks for the info on breed perception -- I wondered about that. Possibly it was a manners issue kinda. That last pit was definitely not very well behaved. Dana > There's really no such thing as a play growl, my Pyr, play barks and he > makes a noise that we call "talking" (kinda sounds like "ha-rah, ha-rah, > ha-rah") But once the growls start he's not fooling around anymore. These > dogs were bred to guard large flocks, the growl is meant as a warning and > nothing else. One thing with these dogs, you have to maintain "alpha" > status. They can get very large (MacGregor is a year and a half old and he's > pushing 100lbs, he's not mature for another six months or so, we think he's > gonna top out at around 120-130lbs) and you don't want a dog that can be as > heavy as 150lbs uncontrolled. Our boy is very well mannered and well behaved > because my wife and I both maintain alpha status and we don't put up with > any misbehavior from him. > > If the pyr mix was raised with your son from a puppy, he considers your son > as his flock, and will protect him. > > We use the "Ceasar Pinch" on our Pyr or we block him if he growls at any of > the other animals, it's amazingly effective. > > Dogs have no concept of breed or size, it's all about body language, he > would have responded the same way whether it was a pit breed or a Chihuahua. > > -- > Scott Stewart > ColdFusion Developer > > SSTWebworks > 7241 Jillspring Ct. > Springfield, Va. 22152 > (703) 220-2835 > > http://www.sstwebworks.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:38 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: A pic to make ya cringe > > to hijack this thread off into a tangent a bit -- does this mean that > if two dogs are fighting and they have NOT been trained to dogfight -- > they are just having a territorial dispute oe whatever -- that they > won't hurt each other probably? > > Just curious because my otherwise gentle dog (a probably pyrenees mix) > attacked a couple of our foster dogs. She did tolerate them kinda > afterwards, but we intervened both times. In both cases she probably > considered herself provoked. In one case my son was playing rather > roughly with the other dog, who growled. I saw this and would have > considered it a play growl -- anyway the pyrenees took offense and > attacked the other dog. I just found it rather disconcerting and > wondered....if it makes a difference both dogs this happened with were > pits. > > thanks for any thoughts > Dana > > On 7/23/07, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:21 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: A pic to make ya cringe > > > > > > So my question is, what makes dog fights so wrong compared with other > > > forms of entertainment. (I myself believe them to be wrong, but I > > > don't like violence in general) ? A dogs true nature is to be > > > territorial, protective, leader of the pack. In nature, these same > > > fights would occur. Just watch your national geographic channel to > > > catch this same kind of behavior in wild animals. > > > > That's a false analogy. > > > > Wild dogs do NOT fight like this. Wild dogs fight for reasons - these > > fights rarely end in serious injury or death. The purpose of combat, in > > nature, doesn't require it: once the female is wooed, the food eaten, > > submission obtained, whatever - the need for fighting is over. > > > > When training dogs for combat their natural instinct to temper themselves > > are suppressed. They are trained to be ruthless, cruel and deadly - to > rip > > and tear and bite until they're forced to stop. > > > > That's not "natural". > > > > Jim Davis > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:238905 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
