IMHO, ASP.Net isn't exactly a yugo tho. I haven't written more than a few
lines of PHP code so I can't comment on it.

Duane

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:51 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CF8 Sticker Shock

this has been done to death over on cf-talk (and various blogs)...

but let's say your manager wanted a car.  a RELIABLE car.  a car that
would deliver the peace of mind of knowing that each morning it'd
start and get him to where he needs to go.

would he balk at the price of a lexus and opt for a yugo?  or would he
shell out a few extra bucks knowing that it's an investment in knowing
that he'll have what he wants (reliable transportation) in the future?

if your manager balks at the sticker price without even considering
the cost savings down the road, he sounds like the same type of
manager who would want you to bang out code fast (doesn't matter if
it's good, just fast) because he'd think that it saved him money.

of course, that's not necessarily true.  code banged out fast may be
money saved up front... but often results in having to revisit that
code (over and over and over again) during the maintenance phase of
the project's lifecycle.  the ever-increasing need to focus resources
on maintenance aspects of the application means less time spent on new
development which also means less revenue coming in long term.

"faster development" is hardly what i'd refer to as a "blah blah
blah".  if that's what your manager thinks... you might want to
consider perusing the cf-jobs list.

On 8/7/07, Matthew Blatchley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I started to talk to our higher ups about getting an Enterprise edition of
> CF8, and then I looked at the price.
>
>     We've got CF, PHP, and .NET developers here and now I've been trumped
> because of the price of CF8....they'll never go for a application server
> that costs almost 8k.
>
> Anyone else finding that they can't compete in such a competitive
> development market with a price tag like that or is it just us?
>
> The new features rock no doubt, but telling a manager that they have to
pay
> that much, they simply laughed in my face.  Now I have to go and face the
> other developers knowing full well that they now have the upper hand with
> the management because it "costs" them less.  And sure, you can talk all
you
> want to about faster development and better security blah blah blah, but a
> manager isn't going to buy it because the price is too steep.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
> 



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