You can believe what you want. However belief simply does not change the 
historical facts. In other words opinions are not facts no matter what you may 
wish.

The writings of the various signers of the constitution were very much against 
injecting religion into the government. Madison went so far as to propose that 
no government support ever should be given to religious group. Adams, Madison 
and Mason all wrote quite a lot against such issues as exempting churches from 
taxation, having a chaplin for the house or senate or any religious instruction 
in state sponsored education.

I've gathered from your various posts that you consider yourself a patiot. 
Given what others and myself have shown you regarding the attitude of the 
founders (i.e., original intent), by wanting this country to be a "Christian" 
nation, aren't you being somewhat unpatriotic?

>Well we can go back and forth on this but the bottom line is, you believe
>what you want to and I believe what I want to and nothing or no-one is going
>to change that, so to me it is futile to continue. I am not giving up the
>discussion because I feel I was out-witted or anything like that. Based on
>past debates on this list no one is going to budge from their position.
>Simple as that. I have firm religious believes that I am not going to give
>up just because someone offered their opinion. The nice thing is we can all
>believe what we want without fear that someone is going to come in and take
>us away, which is why I love living in America.
>
>Bruce 

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