I also limited that statement to contolling the Nukes.

I don't doubt Ike could handle thing properly.  I have read his biography
and much on him.  I work 4 blocks from the D D Eisenhower Center (behind the
D-Day museum).  I'm just concerned that someone who has an affair in office
is controlling nuclear weapons.  Until Bush has one, I'll be less concerned
about his judgement.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haggerty, Michael A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:52 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Nukes
>
>
> Uhhh... you did! Reading your post, you seemed to be saying you
> preferred a
> C student to one you considered impared.
>
> AND you stated Eisenhower's actions indicate he suffered from impared
> judgement.

That should read ACTION, his affair in office.  Beyond that, I can't point
to anything else he did that I consider questionable.  I haven't done much
research into his life though.

>
> Russel, if Eisenhower was in office, the Taleban would be interred behind
> cash registers in 7-11's worldwide by now. The war would be over and we
> would be supressing pop-up ads for low air fares to Kabul
> starting at $99 /
> 3 night stay. Osama and his little henchmen would be on trial in the Hague
> in the courtroom of John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, and Russell
> Crowe. We would
> not be screwing around with thoughts of nuking China or any of this other
> weak sh*t I keep hearing out of Dubyah's abode.

Maybe, but Ike is dead and Bush is in office.  So far, Bush is doing a
pretty good job of kick Taliban tail.  What I am hearing from Operation
Anaconda is impressing me.

>
> FOR SHAME! *uncovers bran muffin of infinite despair and hurls it towards
> you with righteous indignation*

Alright!  That can only be a better feeling than what work is driving me
too.

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:33 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Nukes
>
>
> Who said I had a preference to him.  My choice for President was John
> McCain.  There has been no decent Libertarian candidate on the Louisiana
> ballot so I ended up voting Republican because I was voting against Gore.
>
> I'm just tired of all of the Bush bashing.  Bush has done an equitable job
> on the economy after Clinton drove it into the crash and he has
> done a good
> job with the war on terrorism.  I think that isn't bad for a "C Student."
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Haggerty, Michael A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:17 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Nukes
> >
> >
> > Don't mess with Ike.
> >
> > He kicked the Wehrmacht's a**, liberated Europe, and performed
> > supreme acts
> > of moral courage in the process such that we should feel honored
> > to have had
> > him as our President. I cannot think of a single person qualified
> > to judge a
> > man like that or any of his indescretions. As they say in a
> book somewhere
> > "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
> >
> > Dubyah, on the other hand, has accomplished 1) managing the
> Texas Rangers
> > into the ground after buying a 1% stake in the team with his
> > Dad's money, 2)
> > governing the Great State of Texas, where he accomplished a lot
> > for big Oil
> > and death penalty advocates, and 3) being elected to high
> office only with
> > the direct intervention of the supreme court.
> >
> > I am confused about your preference towards the latter. Please explain.
> >
> > M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:01 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Nukes
> >
> >
> > In all 3 cases you mentioned, I view the affairs as impaired
> judgement on
> > thier parts.  Impaired judgement on the part of man contolling
> our nuclear
> > forces (Ike and JFK) scares me more than having a C student controlling
> > them.
> >
> > Remember, I'm from Louisiana, the state that produced Huey P
> Long, Earl K
> > Long and Edwin W Edwards.
> >
> > Russel
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 1:41 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Nukes
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, Russel, we have (seen their "moral" behavior).
> > > But the point was about intelligence, not moral rectitude.
> > > FDR, Eisenhower, JFK all had affairs in office.
> > > But they were intelligent.
> > > Their somewhat reprehensible private actions did not detract from
> > > that IMO.
> > > -Ben
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:42 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: Nukes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And we have seen the moral behavior of Rhodes Scholars in the
> > > > White Hose.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 1:22 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: RE: Nukes
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think he was addressing students at Yale, said he was proof a
> > > > > "C" student
> > > > > could grow up to be President.
> > > > > (Someone please correct me if I have the wrong venue, but the
> > > > > general point
> > > > > was in regards to his mediocre academic record.)
> > > > > -Ben
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:22 AM
> > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Nukes
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't remember that particular comment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Howie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:06 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Nukes
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Howie-
> > > > > > > yes, simple-minded voters electing one of their kind.
> > > > > > > 'member his comment about mediocre students?
> > > > > > > -Ben
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 
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