On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you are launching rockets at civilians then its terrorism. If your > blowing up women and children eating pizza and minding their own business > then its terrorism. If you even think of calling that freedom fighting then > you've lost any respect I may have. There is NO freedom fighting that kills > in this manner. It's only relative to those who subscribe to moral > equivalence.
I wasn't talking about any specific "terrorists", but terrorism in general. "We" were terrorists to The Crown, yet Freedom Fighters to "us". I don't know if I subscribe to the bad kind of moral equivalence-- but some type, probably. Ha ha. > And yes, 'they' are trying to spread terror. 'They' have stated quite > clearly that they don't want peace. Give 'them' an inch and they want more. > 'They' are Hamas. 'They' are Hizballah. 'They' are those who attack for no > reason other than to attack 'dem Jews'. Ask them yourself and they'll tell > you as much. That is totally silly, and I agree 100% with the idea. You can't come up in this world stating that you desire to take out others simply for being "other". I'm glad Hamas didn't get "approval" to join the big boys. They're still children. But at the same time, there is a reason why Hamas got support, and I don't think it was race-based. I think it's more about wanting change or something... dumb move on their part tho, no doubt. Coulda got a foot in the door... > And the affluent is a documented fact. So it's all rich guys strapping on explosives blow'n themselves up? Sweet! It's that top 1% or whatever that's screwing the world. :P > We're not talking ambiguities. We're not talking attacking troops or army > bases. We're talking flat out murder of the innocent. No ambiguities here at > all. If you want ambiguities then have 'them' say their an army at war with > the army of Israel and then they can be labeled militants, insurgents, > freedom fighters, or whatever. Till then.... I thought some of them were? Don't a lot of "terrorist" organizations call themselves armies or fronts or whatnot? War is hell man. Being at war with "terror" is draconian. Nonsensical. How do you fight that? You don't, silly! It ain't about killing folks, it's about communication. Religion does strange stuff to people-- that, I have seen. Killing just for being different. Guess I was mistaken on that point. I don't think it's ever really about race tho. That's a symptom, not a cause. But I'd be pissed if I was one side, and the other side called in friends to help, vs. just taking me on, one on one. Maybe that's part of it too? Maybe us helping Israel so much is actually hurting the peace process? Eh. I'm a pacifist, so I don't condone senseless killing at all, just to be clear. I just don't think it's a one-sided, easy-answer-type deal. It hardly ever is. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:255693 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
