oh, I was giving gruss sass. I absolutely agree that we should be concerned, but like loathe said, things don't actually look that bad. a new group got thrust into the fight in basra and performed like you would expect - they panicked. petraeus seems to think that situation will resolve itself with experience. I also have read stories of us units backing up iraqi units in sadr city, essentially giving them tactical advice (and support) when they get stuck and don't know what to do. translation - we are training them to take the fight to the enemy and hold their own.
On 4/11/08, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I make no cultural declarations. I simply question the current reality...and > that current reality is that new Iraqi army soldiers deserted their posts by > the hundreds when it came to fighting the Sadr Army, and I've read multiple > accounts that address the US Military's growing impatience with the Iraqi > soldiers' unwillingness to fight, even when backed by the firepower of the > US Military. > > Maybe this is just goes with the territory...for every warrior willing to > fight, there is someone just there to try to skimp a paycheck....who knows. > But this actuality worries me, because our eventual withdrawal has been tied > to the readiness and, now, the WILLINGNESS, of these people to adequately > protect themselves. > > Doesn't that concern you too? > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I love how opponents of the current policy belittle Iraqis and Mulsims in > > general with this sort of invective. Europe was a smoldering fire of petty > > political, tribal and ethnic animosities for at least 3,000 years prior to > > this century. Yet somehow Europeans (and by extensions Americans, > > Canadians, > > and other spawn of European colonization) are more capable of rational > > self-interest than those poor, backward Muslims. Or is it just the Arab > > Muslims who are incapable of civilization? I'm confused, please enlighten > > me. > > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Gruss G wrote: > > > > > > tBone wrote: > > > > What it comes down to was this was the Iraqis taking their first > > steps > > > > at running operations. > > > > > > So pretty soon they'll be well trained enough to attack us. Like > > > Afghanistan. > > > > > > For the life of me I don't see why anybody believes that whatever > > > equilibrium comes to this toilet will somehow benefit us. > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:258378 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
