They dont' sound all bad, no - they sound like they realize they are being
unreasonable.

--Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
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Anchorage, Alaska



----- Original Message -----
From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: I hate clients.......!!


> nice.....perks of the job. I have 2 tickets for the opera, champagne and a
> meal out from one client. They're not all bad I guess.
>
> Thanks guys....feeling a bit better already!!
>
> will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 28 March 2002 15:15
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: I hate clients.......!!
>
>
> We've had clients pull that same shit with us.  Our account execs are
pretty
> savvy and explained to them that it was laid out for 3 months based on a
40
> hour work week.  In order to move up the launch date, we had to expand our
> work day and work week to 70 - 80 hours which means that the developers
were
> working 12-16 hour days and on weekends to get this deployed earlier for
> them.  Normally they wouldn't do that, but because we truly value their
> business, we were willing to make the exception, but that's not our normal
> practice.  This has some great side benefits though.  One benefit is that
> the next time we had to make changes they were much more understanding
> regarding the time it took.  Another benefit was that we now had a more
> educated client which makes the relationship stronger.
> The best benefit was we build sites for a lot of hotels and resorts and
that
> same client offered the entire development team a weekend getaway to their
> resort.  At a going rate of $135+ per night, that's pretty generous.  My
> wife and I are going to take some time this summer to enjoy that little
> perk.
>
> Michael Corrigan
> Programmer
> Endora Digital Solutions
> 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
> Lombard, IL 60148
> 630-627-5055 ext.-136
> 630/627-5255 Fax
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Will Swain
>   To: CF-Community
>   Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:49 AM
>   Subject: FW: I hate clients.......!!
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: 28 March 2002 14:45
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: RE: I hate clients.......!!
>
>
>   I wish we could do that with these clients.....but sadly for our small
>   agency, we have to keep them sweet. It can be done, but it's going to be
>   hard work!! The only concern I have is that the next thing will be that
>   they'll want to know why they have paid for 3 months work when it's only
>   taken 6 weeks!!! If that happens I think I might be taking a jump of the
>   pier!!
>
>   will
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: 28 March 2002 14:39
>   To: CF-Community
>   Subject: Re: I hate clients.......!!
>
>
>   Just had a similar experience.  Landed a new client and are redoing
their
>   site and adding a lot more functionality to it.  It's about a 3-4 week
> job.
>   They signed off on it last Wednesday and called Tuesday asking why the
> site
>   wasn't up yet!  The account manager said the guy started screaming at
her
>   but she told him to look at the contract he signed an the launch date
was
>   middle of April.  She said you could hear him feeling stupid on the
> phone!!
>
>   Michael Corrigan
>   Programmer
>   Endora Digital Solutions
>   1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
>   Lombard, IL 60148
>   630-627-5055 ext.-136
>   630/627-5255 Fax
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Will Swain
>     To: CF-Community
>     Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:34 AM
>     Subject: I hate clients.......!!
>
>
>     Agggghhhhhhhh,
>
>     I hate clients. Why are they so annoying?? We have a client who we are
>   doing
>     a major build for, lots of technical stuff, loads of dynamic content.
>     They've messed about signing off the design and the contracts (taken
10
>     weeks to do this), and now want a 3 month build finished in 6
weeks!!!!
> No
>     negotiation, no choice. They are worth a LOT of money to us, so we
just
>   have
>     to bite the bullet and do the work. SO it's goodbye holiday, goodbye
>   Easter
>     weekend, goodbye life.
>
>     Damn It!!!!
>
>     Sorry, just needed a sound off....carry on :)
>
>     Will
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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