You know, I did a good bit of work with various TANF (welfare to work, whatever) programs over the years.
There are some people that milk the system, but it sure as hell ain't the majority, whatever people tell you. It can be a real bitch-- Sometimes it seems like the cards are stacked against, and whatnot. Years of hard work, sometimes, just to get out there... But anyways, I wanted to say that there have been reform, year after year, which has done quite a bit to weed out the "milkers"-- or at least keep the damn fools busy (which is probably good for the economy, even if they ain't directly contributing). There are rules on how long you can be on it, and how many jobs you have to apply for, etc., etc.. It's like battling virii. You'll never actually /stop/ 'em. It's just cyclic. And natural, even. Sure, anyone with a lick of sense can figure out ways around the system-- hell, it's scary, when you realize that no system is proof against dickery. But it's also an eye-opening moment. There is no such thing as safety. Security, a similar concept, is similarly a falsehood. To an extent, or course, but there's no escaping the truth. We can control what we can control, but we're not IN control, ya know? Any second... BOOM! Yer-out! Anyways, I gotta start doing something cool, cuz the only way I can save, is when I'm pulling down the overtime. Damn, I'm so lame! Can't really blame anyone for holding me down but myself (although people have tried;]) though. Well, guess I'll just have to do something about that. Eventually. -- Age wrinkles the body. Quitting wrinkles the soul. Douglas MacArthur On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tony wrote: > we should drug test them. hands down no questions asked. > > we should MANDATE real job searching and limits to the time you can be > on welfare > > we should put limits on the number of kids... if you come into the > system with 3, you are appropriated for 3. if you have more, tough > shit... figure it out or stop fucking. > > we should eliminate non-producers in the economy (i dont care, fuckin > kill em all if they are consuming only) > > we should drug test them. > > :) tony for president. > > -- tony > > Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. > -- siddhartha gautama > > > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is exactly the issue with handouts. I'm all for tax credits on >> education, job training programs, relocation assistance, school >> vouchers- anything to give people an opportunity to improve their own >> situation. But giving people cash for nothing? It doesn't break the >> cycle, particularly in generational poverty. >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Mary Jo wrote: >> >>> I wonder how many people really have studied poverty and understand a lot >>> of what goes on in generational poverty. I am a liberal, and freely admit >>> that. My faith as well directs me to care for the poor, so that is >>> something very important to me. But I personally have issues with just >>> giving money to lower income families because they simply don't spend it >>> wisely. Money alone simply does not help improve their situation. >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:266177 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
