Umm, how is that a "better tomorrow" and for whom is it better? or would that be TMI? aw heck tell us anyway!
So the other Abraham ($5) makes a Freudian slip: "Foreskin and seven years ago our Forefathers..." -Ben > -----Original Message----- > From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:08 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)) > > > see Benny, see what you started! <grin> > > Erika > married to an uncircumcised man for a better tomorrow. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>|-----Original Message----- > >>|From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>|Sent: 02 April 2002 20:00 > >>|To: CF-Community > >>|Subject: Re: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)) > >>| > >>| > >>|>> >This is the one I don't believe. Put someone in the cold > >>|and then slice > >>|>off > >>|>> >the skin on the tips of their fingers and see which they are > >>|more upset > >>|>> >about. > >>|>> We're talking about a baby here, not an adult. If you were > >>|present to hear > >>|>the baby cry you'd probably agree with me. > >>|> > >>|>You're not suggesting that babies don't feel pain like adults > >>|do, are you? > >>|I'm saying that All pain is the same to them as their nervous > >>|system has no ability to distinguish at the time (8 days old in > >>|Judaism). As a side note, my family was once a foster family and > >>|had a child that was circumcised at the age of 4. He didn't cry > >>|at all during the procedure. I also know someone who converted > >>|to Judaism. He had it done and he was in his 20's. I'd say that > >>|the pain is about comprable to that of an ear pierce. (when > >>|Judith and Hinda Tova get their ears pierced I'll listen in and > >>|report back). > >>| > >>|>OK .. here is some video of a circumcision. That baby > sounds like it's > >>|>doing a little more than complaining of the cold. > >>|> > >>|>http://www.cirp.org/library/procedure/plastibell/circ.mov > >>|I'll have to look at this when I get home as I can't see it at > >>|the moment. What I'm saying is that my experience, as someone > >>|being at a number of these events and standing anywhere from 3 > >>|feet to 10 feet away is that the screams are basically the same. > >>|I will be sure to make a specific note of it the next one I go to. > >>| > >>|>> >You can't convince me that that doesn't hurt like hell. If > >>|it's not that > >>|>> >big of a deal, why bother giving anesthetic to adults? If > >>|being cold is > >>|>> >worse, then the adults shouldn't have anything to complain > >>|about. Sure > >>|>> >would save on the medical bill .... > >>|>> Never said it didn't. My wife stubs her toe and she > screams and hops > >>|>around thinking its broken (she has a low pain > tolerance). A baby had NO > >>|>pain tolerance. Any discomfort is pain to it. Is it > equipped to tell the > >>|>difference between the two pains or the degree? nope. > >>|> > >>|>I also don't believe this. Doctors used to think babies didn't > >>|feel pain at > >>|>all. This is thinking had doctors even performing open > heart surgery on > >>|>babies without anesthetic. Now they know that babies have a > >>|fully developed > >>|>nervouse system that functions just as well as an adult's. > >>|They can tell > >>|>the difference between degrees of discomfort. > >>|I have to disagree. This ability comes in time but a newborn > >>|does not have it. > >>| > >>| > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
