Beth: I never said you said anything, except that you did make it sound like any man (even if the woman wants to do it), who expects a woman to be a homemaker, is sexist. You've now clarified, but the implication of your earlier statement was different. Beyond that, I said this is my experience and what I believe, not characterizing what you said at all.
Also, I said _among_ the most important roles. Also, I said "it sounds like a contradiction" and then went on to explain why it wasn't, because it's not. H. -----Original Message----- From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 11:17 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods > Last time I checked, you can't really choose to have a baby without a man > willing to donate some needed fluid. > > I think to call it sexist for a man to want a woman to perform a > traditional role is, frankly, a rather narrow point of view and diminishes > the importance of home life. For a man to expect a woman to be the domestic caretaker when she wants a career is incredibly sexist and doesnt' diminish anything. > Many women who choose the role of homemaker say > it is very satisfying. I can see how it would be satisfying, especially if > you were raising children. While it's not often recognized as such, the > role a mother plays in our society is among the most important (I don't have > kids of my own, just for the record). Well where in the world did I say that women shouldnt' find homemaking satisfying. And I daresay what you mean is PARENT not MOTHER is the most important role because i know some single dad's who would be very hurt by what you said. You seem to think that I am saying a woman shouldn't be a homemaker, when I haven't said that at all. Go back and read. What I said is that ITS HER CHOICE and it should be her concious choice or else its a sexist assumption that she is going to be doing domestic work. > It would be immoral to force any person into labor he or she doesn't want to > perform, which is different from saying it is sexist. It would be equally > immoral to force a woman to have a career, as some men do because they want > the extra paycheck in the household, when she wants to stay home (assuming > the man earns enough to make it possible). And I would say the opposition > notion applies as well. But hopefully in any marriage, the man (or woman) > would make clear and the woman (or man) would understand and accept well > before the "I Dos" that he (or she) expected this or that. Its sexist to assume the woman will take the domestic duties and the man won't. Period end of sentence. > > My wife had a career when we met and when we got married. When she decided > to stay home, I didn't stop her, even though it was a financial hardship. > When she wanted to start working part-time, primarily because she realized > how much we were struggling financially, I was OK with that, even though it > meant no longer getting home cooked meals every night, etc. And some day > she may want a career again, and I'll have to do more house cleaning, etc. > But I'll agree to that, as well. There will always be a certain amount of > I'm a man and she's a women tradition in our marriage, but it never stands > in the way of either of us doing what we find most fulfilling at any moment. > I like having a domestic wife, like it a lot, but that isn't the most > important thing. Now this may sound like I'm contradicting my previous > post -- what I mean to say is, if my wife was militant about not being > domestic, I would have a problem with that and I purposely avoided those > types of women while dating. But with my wife, even if she worked fulltime > in a career type of job, she would still want to feel like she runs the > household matters. This does go against what you said above. ______________________________________________________________________ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
