"What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my
country.

So now, she likes America. Proof that someone around him does.


On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> most not... feed... trolls
>
> dammit
>
> how did we go from "none of the people around him" like america
>
> to
>
> "his wife"
>
> hmm
>
> I know I am bringing logic to a stupid fight, but still....
>
> argh. Closing email client now, losing IQ points reading this stuff
> and I have too much to do anyway...
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:19 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> I never claimed that.
>>> Yes you do, every day.
>>
>> I guess you need to better understand the debate process.
>>
>>> I think it actually doesn't reflect on Obama's character to associate
>>> with Ayers, nor do i think it reflects on the character of any of the
>>> other dozens of people that *also* served on the same Board, as Ayers
>>
>> I do. Especially considering the objective.
>>
>>> "crimes" took place 40 years ago, he turned himself in, stated that he
>>> has regrets (whether you care or not),
>>
>> His regret was that he didn't do more!
>>
>>> and is no longer a "radical activist".
>>
>>  He was a terrorist. Now he's motivating children to become radical activist.
>>
>>> There.
>>
>> Yeah!
>> :)
>>
>>>> So just discussing his associates is now a smear?
>>>
>>> No, repeating the lie that "Obama pals around with terrorists" is the smear.
>>
>> What part is the lie? He doesn't pal around with Ayers or Ayers is not
>> a terrorist.
>>
>>>> Again I'm more concerned with the fact that none of the people around
>>>> him like America.
>>>
>>> None? that's a pretty definitive statement, care to back it up?
>>
>> Got me, I forgot his wife likes America now :P
>>
>>> probably. 'cause you know, Obama'll probably turn over the keys to the
>>> country to the t'rrists as soon as he gets in office. Like Kennedy was
>>> going to turn over the country to the Pope when he got elected.
>>
>> You missed the point of the discussion. I think he's leaning towards
>> socialism not terrorism.
>> Maybe he's been using all these people and will ignore them when in
>> power. I can hope.
>>
>>> I didn't say talking about Obama was forbidden.
>>
>> As long as it's positive.
>>
>>> I said the message
>>> you're sending is loud and clear, the base is hearing "Obama is a
>>> terrorist", and despite your declarations that it's not really what
>>> you meant, that's the message you're sending.
>>
>> That's a ridiculous argument. So I can't mention he's worked with a
>> terrorist because one guy in the crowd will assume he's also a
>> terrorist? That's why politicians are cautious about who they
>> associate with. You never know what people will think.
>>
>>> She has an "R" after her name, she's a Republican (your party). Oh, of
>>> course, she offers an opinion different than that of the GOP talking
>>> points, i guess you're free then to say she is not one of "yours."
>>
>> So are you and Byrd on the same page? He's national.
>>
>>> got it. Message clear. Differing opinion, not tolerated in GOP. Toe
>>> line, stay in formation.
>>
>> You're rambling.
>>
>>> nice attempt at an evasion.
>>
>> No evasion here.
>>
>>
>
> 

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