> I guess you need to better understand the debate process. i'm clear on the rules of debate.
>> I think it actually doesn't reflect on Obama's character to associate >> with Ayers, nor do i think it reflects on the character of any of the >> other dozens of people that *also* served on the same Board, as Ayers > > I do. Especially considering the objective. >> "crimes" took place 40 years ago, he turned himself in, stated that he >> has regrets (whether you care or not), > > His regret was that he didn't do more! "...to stop America's involvement in Vietnam"... finish the quote Sam. >> and is no longer a "radical activist". > > He was a terrorist. Now he's motivating children to become radical activist. lol >> There. > > Yeah! > :) > >>> So just discussing his associates is now a smear? >> >> No, repeating the lie that "Obama pals around with terrorists" is the smear. > > What part is the lie? He doesn't pal around with Ayers or Ayers is not > a terrorist. pal around? were they drinking buddies? did they have any association outside of 6 board meetings and one cocktail party? in what, 6 years of "knowing" each other? >>> Again I'm more concerned with the fact that none of the people around >>> him like America. >> >> None? that's a pretty definitive statement, care to back it up? > > Got me, I forgot his wife likes America now :P that's the trouble with absolutes. >> probably. 'cause you know, Obama'll probably turn over the keys to the >> country to the t'rrists as soon as he gets in office. Like Kennedy was >> going to turn over the country to the Pope when he got elected. > > You missed the point of the discussion. I think he's leaning towards > socialism not terrorism. so parroting the "obama pals around with terrorists" line does what to advance your anti-socialist position? > Maybe he's been using all these people and will ignore them when in > power. I can hope. It's more likely than not. >> I didn't say talking about Obama was forbidden. > > As long as it's positive. didn't say that either. >> I said the message >> you're sending is loud and clear, the base is hearing "Obama is a >> terrorist", and despite your declarations that it's not really what >> you meant, that's the message you're sending. > > That's a ridiculous argument. So I can't mention he's worked with a > terrorist because one guy in the crowd will assume he's also a > terrorist? That's why politicians are cautious about who they > associate with. You never know what people will think. So, Obama has already stated that he abhors Ayers' past actions. Yet this is still an issue for you. You say your concerned about Obama being a Socialist, yet you keep coming back to Obama associating with "terrorists" how do you reconcile one argument to the other? >> She has an "R" after her name, she's a Republican (your party). Oh, of >> course, she offers an opinion different than that of the GOP talking >> points, i guess you're free then to say she is not one of "yours." > > So are you and Byrd on the same page? He's national. That's the beauty of being a Democrat, you don't have to lock-step with the party. You don't get disowned for having a differing opinion. There are things I agree with Byrd on, and things I don't. And yet, I can still have a civil discussion with him. go figure. >> got it. Message clear. Differing opinion, not tolerated in GOP. Toe >> line, stay in formation. > > You're rambling. nah. pretty clear what I was talking about there. >> nice attempt at an evasion. > > No evasion here. heh :-) -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:272934 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
