im appalled that HE as a follower of the jewish religion
is considered a minority... the whole topic is a joke... really....

we are all just fuckin people

-- tony

Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gautama



On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think you missed the point, I don't think that Michael was saying that
> America is beyond our racial problems in the past.... I'm a white male
> and I can can tell you that we're so not beyond it it's ridiculous.
> I think that what Michael is trying to say is that the anti
> discrimination laws in the US are not applied with an even hand...
>
> Michael is Jewish, in some parts of US anti-discrimination legislation,
> he's a minority and is covered, in other parts because his skin is
> white, he's not. That's a real disparity. What saddens me is that we're
> in the 21st century and we haven't progressed far enough to no longer
> need this kind of legislation.
>
> And Gel, I do take some offense to this "then racist White 'Christian'
> Males in the majority would keep them out and keep them down", I'm a
> white male and I'm by no means racist, the people that you speak of are
> a vocal minority in the US, who unfortunately have the ears of power at
> the moment. I'm assuming that racism is alive and well in Trinidad also?
>
> Vivec wrote:
>> Oh come off it.
>>
>> A Black man has black skin and features.A white man has white skin and 
>> features.
>>
>> When US Voters say they aren't voting a nigger into office they are
>> not referring to any sort of genealogy or family lineage background
>> check.
>>
>> Look at some international news if you really need the difference explained.
>>
>> If there wasn't racism in the US and elsewhere then there would be no
>> need for anti discrimination laws.
>> The fact is there is racism, and there is discrimination. And it's sad
>> that without laws protecting minorities - Blacks, Women, Hispanics,
>> Homosexuals,Jews etc. then racist White 'Christian' Males in the
>> majority would keep them out and keep them down.
>>
>> Argue amongst yourselves against this unassailable truth, argue that
>> its no longer a problem...bring up all the tried and worn excuses that
>> you like.
>> These US Elections has shown the entire world that no- America is NOT
>> over its racist past.
>>
>> How a Jew can claim there is no prejudice and racism in the US is
>> beyond me,even in the Caribbean there is prejudice and racist
>> statements made against Jews..but whatever.
>>
>> 2008/10/13 Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> Doesn't answer the question of how the criteria is set and where the line
>>> is. When does someone not be black? Is it with 2 white parents, even if he's
>>> very dark skinned? How about if he's totally caucasoid with 2 dark skinned
>>> black parents?
>>> I call bullshit on this whole thing as the rules are made up as you go and
>>> some groups can use those rules waaaaay past what others can, do, or even
>>> should.
>>> And if it's due to some past historical injustice...
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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