It depends on the time period you are talking about. Irish, Polish,
German and Romanian/Gypsy groups have all had their time in the
racism-receiving spotlight. As have the Chinese and Japanese.

Racism isn't a constant thing. That is good as it means that we can
hopefully make it go away. Religious hate is the same way. People
railing again "Papists" have largely gone the way of the dodo (though
certainly not entirely).

The objective of things like affirmative action are to try and level
the playing field for groups that have been being discriminated on in
the recent past with the hopes that a more level playing field will
integrate them into what are considered norms of society and
fear/anger toward those groups will gradually pass.

Judah

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Michael Dinowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never said that racism doesn't exist and/or is not a problem. I know it
> exists. I see it every day. I see it from more than the 'white' side all the
> time. I don't know what I said to make you think otherwise.
> What I'm asking in a rhetorical way is what the line is. What makes one
> person white and another black.
> My sister in law is olive skinned from southern Russia/northern Middle East.
> She's counted as white. Why? Because she's Jewish? In the south there are
> dozens of words that are used to show how much 'black blood' is in someone.
> You can look white, but to some (many?) black is black no matter what. A
> Puerto Rican is a Puerto Rican no matter what his skin color. The same for
> just about any non-european minority.
> That's the line. Thank you for helping me see it. If you're from Europe or
> Asia in any way your not a minority. OK, maybe only Europe.
>
> And yes, race is a factor in this election but there's more than that.
> American's don't like big changes. A black man in the white house is a
> massive change but an acceptable one. A black man with Obama's perceived
> ideas and ideals is an even bigger change. Obama is a LOT of change at once
> and it'll be more than race that stops him from being elected. If he can
> make his issues fit with the mainstream, conservative America then his race
> becomes the only change. If not, his race becomes a larger factor.
> Of course, if he loses, we'll all be considered racists for not electing
> him.
>
> But again, I really don't see how you can take what I've said till now the
> way you did.
>

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