I've never said that racism doesn't exist and/or is not a problem. I know it
exists. I see it every day. I see it from more than the 'white' side all the
time. I don't know what I said to make you think otherwise.
What I'm asking in a rhetorical way is what the line is. What makes one
person white and another black.
My sister in law is olive skinned from southern Russia/northern Middle East.
She's counted as white. Why? Because she's Jewish? In the south there are
dozens of words that are used to show how much 'black blood' is in someone.
You can look white, but to some (many?) black is black no matter what. A
Puerto Rican is a Puerto Rican no matter what his skin color. The same for
just about any non-european minority.
That's the line. Thank you for helping me see it. If you're from Europe or
Asia in any way your not a minority. OK, maybe only Europe.

And yes, race is a factor in this election but there's more than that.
American's don't like big changes. A black man in the white house is a
massive change but an acceptable one. A black man with Obama's perceived
ideas and ideals is an even bigger change. Obama is a LOT of change at once
and it'll be more than race that stops him from being elected. If he can
make his issues fit with the mainstream, conservative America then his race
becomes the only change. If not, his race becomes a larger factor.
Of course, if he loses, we'll all be considered racists for not electing
him.

But again, I really don't see how you can take what I've said till now the
way you did.


On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh come off it.
>
> A Black man has black skin and features.A white man has white skin and
> features.
>
> When US Voters say they aren't voting a nigger into office they are
> not referring to any sort of genealogy or family lineage background
> check.
>
> Look at some international news if you really need the difference
> explained.
>
> If there wasn't racism in the US and elsewhere then there would be no
> need for anti discrimination laws.
> The fact is there is racism, and there is discrimination. And it's sad
> that without laws protecting minorities - Blacks, Women, Hispanics,
> Homosexuals,Jews etc. then racist White 'Christian' Males in the
> majority would keep them out and keep them down.
>
> Argue amongst yourselves against this unassailable truth, argue that
> its no longer a problem...bring up all the tried and worn excuses that
> you like.
> These US Elections has shown the entire world that no- America is NOT
> over its racist past.
>
> How a Jew can claim there is no prejudice and racism in the US is
> beyond me,even in the Caribbean there is prejudice and racist
> statements made against Jews..but whatever.
>
> 2008/10/13 Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Doesn't answer the question of how the criteria is set and where the line
> > is. When does someone not be black? Is it with 2 white parents, even if
> he's
> > very dark skinned? How about if he's totally caucasoid with 2 dark
> skinned
> > black parents?
> > I call bullshit on this whole thing as the rules are made up as you go
> and
> > some groups can use those rules waaaaay past what others can, do, or even
> > should.
> > And if it's due to some past historical injustice...
>
> 

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