Mikey D -

we be friends here, dude.
ya not be starting a fight with me
and I respect you tremendously

remember I grew up 'way out in the boonies of the Diaspora
(in a galaxy far far away)

Interesting comment about the "drift".

My son is currently "away" because he's questioning the religion part (age
21). He still identifies as a Jew, but it not sure how he feels about God
right now. (Hey, I'm a lot lot older and not sure how I feel sometimes!)

My daughter seems to feel like she drifted a little too far away and has
drifted back a bit (age 19).

In my case, my grandparents kept Kosher (but I didn't know that). I never
met 3 of my 4 grandparents.

My parents had nothing whatsoever to do with "the faith" other than
weddings, funerals, traditional holiday foods.

I got connected because of my kids. Tried to pass on a solid foundation to
them - belief in God, morals, how to live your life. Feel they have become
decent, honorable people. Hope that a seed has been planted which will
sprout as they get a little older. But it's up to them.

-Ben



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:47 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods
> 
> 
> I really (really really) hate to say this but in many cases 
> (well over 50%) the children of reform families drift away 
> from the faith. 
> As for who's a Jew, if you were born of a Jewish mother then 
> the orthodox accept you as a Jew no matter what your level of 
> practice. Same if someone went through a Kosher conversion. A 
> person who's only Jewish parent is their father or is 
> converting in a 'non-Kosher' way is not considered a Jew. I 
> have a friend who's the son of the president of Brooklyn 
> college. He converted to Judaism and got married to the 
> daughter of a well placed Chasidic family. Because he went 
> through the rigors of a conversion he was counted as much a 
> Jew as I am. 
> I don't like talking on this subject as it almost always rubs 
> someone the wrong way and starts a fight. 
> 
> >Saw a fascinating video in a class at Temple once. Recall 
> the question being
> >asked "how have we managed to survive all these years?".  
> The Orthodox
> >answer was basically "by holding fast to our laws and 
> traditions, and not
> >changing". The Reform answer was basically "by holding fast 
> to our beliefs
> >and adapting them to the context in which we live".  
> >
> >I think this implies though that Orthodox Judiasm is more 
> focused on laws
> >and compliance, and less on theology, with Reform somewhat 
> the reverse.
> >
> >I try not to feel "inferior" to Orthodox Jews who hew to the 
> mitzvot. I must
> >say, though, it bothers me that the Orthodoxy (particularly 
> in Israel) tries
> >very  hard to not only make me feel that way, but to say I 
> am not really a
> >Jew.
> >
> >-Ben
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 12:25 PM
> >> To: CF-Community
> >> Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods
> >> 
> >> 
> >> <sigh> yes, it does get sticky here.
> >> 
> >> If your daughter grew up and decided she wanted to wear a 
> >> yarmulke, would
> >> you think that was wrong too?
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:13 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > >Then you aren't raising your kids with sexist values.  I 
> >> think its good
> >> > >because it gives them more options.
> >> > But by definition I am. I tell Moshe to put on his 
> >> Yarmulka, something
> >> Hinda doesn't have to do. I don't dress Hinda in pants nor 
> >> short dresses due
> >> to the laws of modesty. Moshe has to stand by the side when 
> >> Hinda and Judith
> >> light Shabbos candles. I do observe differences based on 
> >> gender as defined
> >> in Judaism. I just don't think they're 'wrong'.
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> 
> >
> 
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