In my lifetime I was codependent to a meth addict (although I didn't know he
was, thats how dumb I was) so I do understand.   So, I do understand.
However, I also understand that this woman is subjecting her kids to a
horrible life and I simply cannot respect it, nor understand THAT.  Kids
come first.  IF you can't put kids first give them to someone who can.


----- Original Message -----
From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods


> Thats a little mean to call someone pitiful codependent freak ;)
>
> You should be a smidge more understanding of the disorder before ya yammer
> about how pitiful someone is ;)
>
> Face it we all do somethings that are pitiful ya know
>
> like me i bite my toe nails *JUST KIDDING*
>
> hehe
>
>
>
> Bill Wheatley
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods
>
>
> > I'm a man who would LOVE to be a "loser" -
> > guess I need to decrease the food and increase the exercise...
> > <sigh>
> > :-)
> > -Ben
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:52 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods
> > >
> > >
> > > Having been in a very, very long (8 years), good/bad
> > > relationship with a man
> > > who has a gambling problem, that codependency thing .... it's
> > > a hard thing
> > > to shake.
> > >
> > > We know the man is a loser...or should I say, not right for
> > > us, but we love
> > > them. We think they need us, because nothing else is right in
> > > their lives
> > > .. only to find out, we were not anywhere close to the top of their
> > > priority list, no matter how much they said we were.
> > >
> > > He was never mean to me. Helped with the dishes, the laundry, did the
> > > shopping, but in the end, because of gambling, everything
> > > disintegrated. I
> > > ended up supporting the both of us.
> > >
> > > It took me two years to break up with him, because it killed
> > > me to hurt him,
> > > but in the end it was only hurting me, but I have to say, I
> > > would do it all
> > > over again, because the path I took led me to Phil, the
> > > choices I made, gave
> > > me the opportunity to be where I am today. We had tons of
> > > great times, but
> > > I'll never forget the lessons I learned.
> > >
> > > She may, someday, see that she is in a dead-end road, and
> > > hopefully, she
> > > will have learned something.
> > >
> > > Erika
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > >>|-----Original Message-----
> > > >>|From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >>|
> > > >>|Because she is a pitiful codependent freak.
> > > >>|
> > > >>|----- Original Message -----
> > > >>|From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>|To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>|Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:38 PM
> > > >>|Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods
> > > >>|
> > > >>|
> > > >>|> Why does she stay with this loser?
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|> One of the discussions my wife and I have all the time --
> > > >>|cause it drives
> > > >>|> her up the wall -- is women who make bad choices in
> > > >>|boyfriends/husbands.
> > > >>|> She has a couple of friends who have been in one bad
> > > relationship after
> > > >>|> another.  When she tells them they should find a nice stable guy,
> > > >>|employed,
> > > >>|> a little nerdy, not living the fast life, they say, "Oh, a guy
> > > >>|like that
> > > >>|> wouldn't be enough of a challenge; he wouldn't be
> > > interesting enough."
> > > >>|Some
> > > >>|> women want it all -- a guy who is wild, carefree, dangerous,
> > > >>|but doesn't
> > > >>|> sleep around or abuse them or use them.  Good luck
> > > finding that guy.
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|> H.
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>|> From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >>|> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:55 PM
> > > >>|> To: CF-Community
> > > >>|> Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|> I forgot the kicker- he spends all her money on drugs too
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>|> From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>|> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>|> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:54 AM
> > > >>|> Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|> > Seems to me that friend's husband is thinking he has a
> > > >>|pretty good deal,
> > > >>|> > she supports him, cleans up after him, etc. It sounds
> > > like he has a
> > > >>|> servant
> > > >>|> > rather than a wife.
> > > >>|> >
> > > >>|> > larry
> > > >>|> >
> > > >>|> >
> > > >>|> > At 09:46 AM 4/5/02 -0900, you wrote:
> > > >>|> > > > Wait a minute.  What about when a woman marries a man
> > > >>|who tells her
> > > >>|> that
> > > >>|> > >it is her responsibility to cook, clean, etc.?  Isn't
> > > her choice to
> > > >>|marry
> > > >>|> a
> > > >>|> > >man like that the same as choosing it herself? Do you take
> > > >>|issue with
> > > >>|> what
> > > >>|> > >she's being told to do or the fact that she's being told to do
> > > >>|anything?
> > > >>|> > >
> > > >>|> > >
> > > >>|> > >Well as far as my relationships go, I personally don't
> > > >>|think partners
> > > >>|> should
> > > >>|> > >TELL each other to do anything - they ask.
> > > >>|> > >
> > > >>|> > >If both the woman and the man feel that its her job
> > > to do all the
> > > >>|cooking
> > > >>|> > >and cleaning then its her choice.
> > > >>|> > >
> > > >>|> > >But i have a friend who is married to a guy who is jobless.
> > > >>|He stays at
> > > >>|> home
> > > >>|> > >with a four year old but refuses to do any cooking,
> > > >>|cleaning or laundry
> > > >>|> or
> > > >>|> > >shopping....  She asked him to pitch in and he said
> > > "What am I, the
> > > >>|> maid?"
> > > >>|> > >
> > > >>|> > >So he feels its her job to do all of the working, cleaning,
> > > >>|cooking and
> > > >>|> > >laundry because he isnt' the maid  (i.e. because he
> > > isn't female).
> > > >>|Thats
> > > >>|> > >bullshit, plain and simple.
> > > >>|> > >
> > > >>|> > >
> > > >>|> >
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|>
> > > >>|
> > >
> >
> 
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