- staying prisoner with the other men in vietnam despite the promise
of severe torture. calling it courageous doesn't even do it justice.

- breaking with his party again and again to fight for the things he
believes in, and accomplishing many of them.

- working across the aisle om issues like campaign finance reform,
federal judge appointments, and immigration reform (which will now
pass).

as great a guy as obama is, he has essentially no accomplishments to his name.

On 10/20/08, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> circumstances are the same for either guy. biden said obama would face
>> a test of his mettle within six months. mccain has been through the
>> crucible already and has proved his mettle.
>
> Out of genuine curiosity, how has he been through the crucible and
> proven his mettle?
>
> Judah
>
> 

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