>I like it. I always respected how Israel required it of their children over
>the age of 18. 3 years for males, 2 for women. And I believe, as a whole,
>they have a very strong sense of country and responsibility. Overall.
>There's always exceptions.

Except if you belong to certain sects like the extreme orthodox Lubavitch sect 
who have waivers from service.

>
>Something to that effect would work, especially after high school. Nowadays
>most "children" (17-24) I meet are spoiled rotten brats that wouldn't
>survive a week in the forest, let alone know how to respect anything,
>including the clothes ono their back. Their manners are atrocious, and I
>want to tie every last one of them to a tree for a week in the desert to
>teach them to be thankful for life. (by the way, there are exceptions, so
>don't jump on me)

You're getting old. The same complaint was made by some Summerian scribe almost 
4,000 years ago.

>
>ANYTHING that humbles them, gives them a sense of pride, responsibility and
>team work, mixed with some common sense and survival-ship, topped off with
>volunteerism and giving back to their community is "A-OK" in my book.
>
>Of course I have no children, so take my opinion with a grain of salt I
>suppose.
>\ 

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