Sorry, I hate to sounf cliche, but I firmly believe guns don't kill people, people kill people. Take the guns away and they will find other ways to kill each other.
I can kill as many, or more, people with my car than a gun, yet no one wants to seems to take my car away. Heart disease is a huge killer, maybe we should start regulating what people eat and force them to exercise while we are at it. The problem, as I see it, is not the gun, but the person. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find it interesting that liberals will defend the 1st amendment until > they > > are blue in the face, but are willing to throw the next one out the > window. > > > > There are two major reasons I see for this. > > One is that the first amendment is a lot more clearly written than the > second. As I'm sure you know, the Supreme Court just had its very > first case that directly addressed whether the 2nd amendment applied > to individual gun ownership or group ownership (a well regulated > militia). That's a long to be debate about the plain text meaning of a > part of the constitution. I'm not sure that the most recent decision > really settled the matter, but its a start. > > The second reason is that guns kill people and words don't. I can > defend the right of of white supremacists to spout of hateful rhetoric > and be sure that the words, odious as they are, aren't going to > physically damage anyone I love. There are well established exceptions > to the first amendment for speech that directly incites violence, so > arguing for all other sorts of unpopular speech is safe if at times > nauseating. The margin of error when dealing with guns is not as great > as when dealing with words. Words don't accidentally go off in freak > accidents, they don't get found and used by kids because parents > forgot to lock them up, etc. > > I'm still a supporter of the 2nd amendment and particularly the right > of individuals to bear arms. But yeah, the positive effect and > potentially harmful effects of the 1st and 2nd amendments? No contest, > the 1st amendment means a heck of a lot more to our society. > > Judah > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:280019 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
