See but you can read what Tom and the others intended, and it's plain that they intended there to be no laws preventing citizens from owning and carrying guns.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 1:07 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: questions from the gun control thread > > Words can yield as much power and be as destructive as almost > any weapon. > They may not kill instantly like guns can, but words most > surely can destroy lives as effectively as a gun can. > > I will agree that the 'well regulated militia' part muddies > the waters a bit and not having the ability to talk to Tom > and the others, it is open to interpretation. I will not try > and get inside the heads of the men who wrote the > Constitution, but one thing that I can't get away from is that it says > the people have a right to bear arms...'people'...not the > 'militia'. Maybe > its splitting hairs but that is how I see it. > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Judah McAuley > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > Words don't exist without people either. I understand the > "dangerous > > people" versus "dangerous guns" argument. One of my > favorite lines is > > "guns don't kill people....I do." But when we are talking 1st > > amendment versus 2nd amendment, we are talking about people > exercising > > their right to free speech (and assembly and religion) and people > > exercising their right to keep and bear arms. You could > argue that the > > "keeping" part is passive, but the "bearing" part? No so much. Its > > people with guns and people with words. > > > > I'm not arguing that weapons are inherently dangerous. They > aren't. In > > very rare situations they could go off in a fire, etc, etc, > but those > > are totally fringe events. I'm talking about the relative > utility and > > danger of people with words versus people with guns. I > still support > > the right of people to have and use guns. But I think it is > ludicrous > > to argue that that is not fundamentally more dangerous than people > > having and using words. > > > > Judah > > > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Scott Stroz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But a gun by itself is merely a paper weight. It is not until we > > introduce > > > a human does it become dangerous. The same thing can be said for > > > just > > about > > > any 'weapon'. > > > > > > How many people have died from gunshots where a person was not > > > handling > > the > > > gun when it went off (or just before it went off to cover > incidents > > > where someone dropping a gun may have caused it to fire)? > > > > > > I am not saying that there is not a problem, btu maybe > the problem > > > is not with tool, but those who wield them. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:280040 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
