On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Jochem wrote: > > > > Their model, in case you hadn't noticed, is not doing any better than > ours, > > By which measure? > > If you want to argue GDP per capita or number of unemployed you may be > right. If you want to argue the number of people that can't afford their > healthcare you may be wrong. The question is which one you value more. >
Gruss is suggesting that the European model is a lot better than the current US model and I disagree. There are definitely trade-offs, with health care being one of them, although I believe that health care can be solved in some other way than nationalization. > > Socialism is economically unsustainable, but the Democratic > > Party seems to have forgotten that lesson. > > Where would they have learned that lesson? What country tried the 'European > model' and couldn't sustain it? > France, Ireland, Britain, etc., etc., etc. I'm referring to more traditional socialism like these countries abandoned- nationalized industries, protectionism, mass unionization, etc. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:283062 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
