On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Gruss   wrote:

> > Jochem wrote:
> > Where would they have learned that lesson? What country tried the
> 'European model' and couldn't sustain it?
> >
>
> Robert, along with many Americans, has fallen victim to boogey men and
> cartoonish demagogic bastardization of some really good concepts.
>
> Robert uses the word "socialism" as a proxy Fascism.


Socialism isn't a proxy for anything. You seem to have me confused with your
former hero Rush Limbaugh.



>
> Marx had it pretty correct.  He praised capitalism's ability to
> transform poor countries into thriving democracies.  His concern was
> that capitalism would create a plutocracy.
>

Marx was a idealistic fool whose ideas have been totally discredited.



>
> Frankly that's exactly what we have right now thanks to Bush.
>

Wow, hyperbole much?


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