> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:58 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: I am all for gay marriage...
> 
> but I think this is bullshit...
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/756u4c
> 
> Can the state also tell churhces that they need to allow same sex
> couples
> use of their buildings so they can get married?*  *Where does it stop?

I'm not sure about this one... this is NOT a "church building" (i.e.
consecrated ground) - this is a generally rentable, non-religious location.
In other words it's a public business.  They are not asking for a religious
service on holy ground.  So this isn't really (as far as I see it) the state
forcing a Church to do anything - it's the state forcing a business owner to
do something.

Now - that said - I'm libertarian enough to believe that anybody should be
able to refuse service to anybody they want - for any asshole reason they
want.  But then again Churches should also be paying taxes - any
organization that demands that much say in politics should pay the entry
fee.  We're not living in that kind of world.

Personally I do think that this is definitely to make a point: otherwise why
specifically pick someplace you're not wanted?  So personally I'm not
inclined to side with these women.  But then again if a group of people that
are being discriminated against by law can bend the law to piss on the hats
of those doing the discriminating... well, that deserves at least a little
respect.

In the end it seems pretty cut-and-dried to me: the law is clear and this
property owner isn't allowed to discriminate (the couple is, after all,
willing to pay and doing something completely legal in the state).
Personally I'm not a big fan of those kind of laws... but it's hard to argue
that some kind of protection against discrimination isn't needed when the
very act being proposed (a commitment ceremony) is itself a clearly
discriminatory compromise.

Jim Davis


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