> Judah wrote:
> What I meant was what is the logic/morality behind your stance.

I know where I stand and it's on the side of humane treatment.  That's
because if we're not on that side then there really is no side in
practicality for most people.

Every one of us has probably gotten in with the wrong crowd, or at
least a "bad" friend, and walked away because we didn't like the way
they did things or the things we did with them.

If US isn't ensuring that we're that better side, then there is no
wrong crowd just different crowds.

If you don't try to be better then you're just the same.

And I don't buy the fact that you it's not possible to be better.

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