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> > while Islam (to one degree or another) is still mired in theirs.


No, fundamentalist Islam is. Islam in the middle east is. OTHER than the
article that Gruss started all this with, how many beheadings have happenned
in the US by Muslims? There's 8 million Muslims in the US, and I could only
find 1 report of a US Muslim beheading anyone in the first 15 pages of my
google search. Does that sound like a systemic problem with common practice
Islam?


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