>> > >And who may I ask are following those passages today? >Everyone pulls up the negative passages from the Torah/Bible whenever these >conversations come up but bottom line is that we don't have slaves (really >paid servitude in context) nor do we support the beating of anyone. We've >gone past those actions.
Have we? A pediatrics surgeon friend of mine just had to deal with working 6 hours in the operating room to put a kid back together - the 3 year old was crying too much according to her father. And this wasn't some poor jerk on drugs. Apparently the guy was quite well off. It was his god given right you see to discipline his kid. > > >1. a whole group -If this was a one off event then it would be one thing but >we're talking about an action that has been repeated in numerous locations >by people of varying levels of observance, education, etc. All that ties >them together is that the action is mentioned in some way in their common >holy literature. Do I see protest marches from Muslims denouncing this? Do I >see prominent clerics explaining that this is wrong and those that do it are >not true Muslims? Or, as Gruss is saying, is there a silent support or lack >of protest on the part of the majority of Muslims? Then you have not been paying attention. There has been numerous fatwas issued by American and European mullahs and imams. >2. less than human - I never said less than human. I said that there is a >practice (action) that is uncivilized (in other words, against the modern >notion of civilization sans murder) and is supported in one way or another >by a holy book of a culture. > >You can dress up a pig and put lip-stick on it, but its still a pig. > >Now that is racist against Muslims. Using pigs in a statement. It's an >insult. > >OK, bottom line. If beheading is an action that is condemned by Muslims then >it should be protested by Muslims. Show me those protests. here are a few: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1180867540094&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm Part of the problem is that peaceful protest is not newsworth according to most of the media, you get better numbers showing a beheading or other sort of protest that meets people's bigotry about islam. You don't get the same showing peaceful protest of those acts of barbarism. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:288794 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
