Sorry for my cynical views, but its almost always about the money.  You can
do just as much or even more to affect the well being of a patient by
becoming a nurse or Physician's Assistant or Nurse Practitioner, hell in
even a paramedic. And what is the most obvious difference in those careers
when compared to doctors?  Salary. So, while a lot of people may try to sell
you on the fact that they are not dong it 'for the money', I would be
willing to bet that an overwhelming majority of those have money as one of
reasons for persuing a career as a doctor.  Maybe not the only, or even the
biggest, but its definitely a reason. Sorry, but when even the worst doctor
in the US can pull in several hundred thousand dollars a year, the supposed
altruistic reasons for persuing such a career are kind of hard to swallow.
I never made a claim that physician's were against a single payer system -
not sure where you got that from.
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Maybe its a regional thing then. Because my friends in medical school
> (or trying to get in) aren't doing it for the money. None of my
> primary care physicians have been that way either, nor any of the
> doctors I work with as part of my job.
>
> I do want doctors to make very good money. They have very expensive
> and long education, it is a very demanding profession and what they do
> is very important and difficult (especially when done right). I
> suspect that you also don't know any rural physicians. GP in a rural
> environment is not 500K a year job, believe me. And yes, that is part
> of the reason that rural america is underserved medically but there
> are still many doctors out there making a decent, if not lavish,
> living and doing something they love.
>
> Hell, if everyone was motivated by making the most money possible they
> would all go into dermatology. You should see a dermatology schedule,
> they book through 30 or 40 fifteen minute appointments a day easy plus
> markups on creams, lotions, laser treatments...the list goes on.
>
> Anyway, I don't have to rely on anecdotal story versus story to say
> that you, Gruss and Rob are incorrect in your thinking about what the
> medical community wants. There are actual polls out there that show
> substantial support for a single payer, government sponsored health
> insurance plan.
>
> National Survey showing 59% in favor of single payer plan with far
> higher rates in many specialties:
> http://www.pnhp.org/news/2008/march/most_doctors_support.php
>
> New Hampshire Medical Society poll showing support for single payer by
> 2/3rds of physicians in NH:
> http://www.nhms.org/topics/12-14-2007_a.pdf
>
> Minnesota Medicine poll showing 64% of MN doctors favoring single
> payer:
> http://www.minnesotamedicine.com/PastIssues/February2007/ClinicalHealthCareFebruary2007/tabid/1709/Default.aspx
>
>
> Perhaps your cynicism about doctors is well founded. I don't know. But
> you are all wrong about doctors not supporting a single payer health
> plan.
>
> Judah
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > A doctor's business is taking care of sick people. The keyword there is
> > 'business', not 'sick people'.
> > There are a plethora of reasons why someone becomes a doctor, but very
> few
> > of them don't have 'money' on their list of reasons why. You may get the
> > occaisional doctor where this is not the case, but it is the exceprion,
> not
> > the rule.  I started working in a hospital setting when I was 15 and
> stopped
> > when I was 35 - in that time, I can recall meeting only 1 doctor who
> really
> > did not care about the money - he gave away most of his salary to charity
> > and lived a very humble, almost destitute, life
>
> 

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