I think your statistics aren't quite right Jerry. Here's what I found
when I looked up the specifics of the Ricci case:

The passage rate for the Captain exam was: 16 (64%) of the 25 whites;
3 (38%) of the 8 blacks; 3 (38%) of the 8 Hispanics. The top 9 scorers
included 7 whites and 2 Hispanics; given that there were 7 Captain
vacancies when the tests were administered, and that the "Rule of
Three" in the City Charter mandates that a civil service position be
filled from among the three individuals with the highest scores on the
exam, it appeared that no blacks and at most two Hispanics would be
eligible for promotion.

The passage rate for the Lieutenant exam was: 25 (58%) of the 43
whites; 6 (32%) of the 19 blacks; 3 (20%) of the 15 Hispanics. All the
top 10 scorers were white; given that there were 8 vacancies, under
the "Rule of Three" it appeared that no blacks or Hispanics would be
eligible for promotion.

So black applicants were passing at half the rate of white candidates.
This was the basis for the consideration of tossing the exam as a
"disparate impact" upon minorities. It was also noted that a
neighboring city used a different test and a different weighting (New
Haven made the written exam 60% of the final score) and the
neighboring town got proportionally much more uniform results.

Anyway, right or wrong, the test did have a disparate impact on the
promotion of minority candidates. Under existing law that was enough
to let the city toss the results of the exam and consider a new
approach. The lower courts agreed because it was pretty obvious law
and Congress was quite explicit in its intentions. The Supreme Court
took a rather activist approach and overturned Congress' intent and
rewrote the law themselves. A bit harshly, in my opinion, but I
definitely think it is an area of law that needs to be revisited
anyway, so hopefully Congress will use this as a kick in the ass to do
so.

Judah

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Jerry Barnes<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "I was not ignoring it, it is just statistically unlikely."
>
> "Lets say that half of them are white and half are non-white. 10 of the 20
> pass the test, but 8 of the 10 who pass are white versus 2 of the 10 who are
> non-white. Statistically, that is a very unlikely scenario . . ."
>
>
> I'll have to disagree since 118 applicants took the test and only 27 were
> black (23% of the testers while  37.4% of the city is black).  Fifty-nine
> firefighters passed the test.  Only the top sixteen were eligible for
> promotion, 3 of which were latino's.  Some blacks did pass the test, just
> not in the top sixteen.
>
> Also, consider the factor of work force.  The pool of potential blacks  who
> could score high on the test is not as large as the pool of white workers
> since blacks are a minority.  Many who could do well are in other more
> lucrative fields.  By the way, this is not my argument.  I heard a black
> football coach discussing why there are so few black head football coaches
> in college football.  He said that most of the good, young black coaches are
> snatched up by the NFL.
>
>
> 

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