I am befuddled how the correct answer to question 19 would be determined by the 'white middle class' and in case you got the questions mixed up, I am befuddled how the answer to question 20 would be determined by the 'white middle class'.
As for question 20,I don;t give a rat's ass about culture. I worked in Emergency Services for almost 20 years and, sadly, on more than one occasion, reported a co-worker for showing up to work with alcohol on their breath (can't say if they were actually drunk - but I did not care). That has nothing to do with 'ratting out' someone and everything to do with making sure that we were actually able to protect the people we were paid to protect. If a 'culture' says differently, than, sorry, they should not be in that job - and that question would be a good one to use to eliminate someone from consideration. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Dana<[email protected]> wrote: > > welp... one of the groups I am talking about is the Irish. That's a > pretty big group. Another is inner-city blacks and Hispanics and those > too are pretty big groups. > > I guess I am having trouble understanding why a question's correct > answer is determined by white middle-class culture, as the #19 > question seems to be. > > Perhaps we want respect for authority in our lieutenant candidates, in > which case the question, while embodying cultural norms, has a > presumably legal rationale. > > It would not however seem to be a good measure of thinking outside the > box (for instance). > > But hey, IANAL... that's just my own possibly flawed understanding. > But I see people here getting upset when the answer they are sure is > correct is questioned. > > That actually does seem a bit biased. > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well, Cameron and I asked for examples of 'culturally biased' >> questions and you posted the two examples we have been discussing. You >> have to forgive a good old boy when he asks a question and assumes >> what he gets in return was actually an answer to that question. >> >> So, again (and I will reword using your terms), if a question goes >> against 'the cultural norm' why is it immediately the question and not >> the 'culture' that has the problem? >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Dana<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> You know -- I try hard not to pigeonhole you as a good old boy. >>> Sometimes you make it hard. >>> >>> a) I did not say biased, you did. I said "contains a cultural norm." >>> >>> b) I also said that whether this is an issue depends on multiple factors. >>> >>> please explain what part of this is hard to understand. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> OK..it would make the question culturally biased, how? >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Dana<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> actually I didn't say racially I said culturally. And if people of >>>>> different cultures think different answers are correct then there is a >>>>> cultural norm in the question. >>>>> >>>>> Whether this is unfair depends. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Dana<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But there are also groups where "ratting" is always the wrong answer, >>>>>>> and without ignoring the situation you can also take him home. I can >>>>>>> think of several people I know who would do exactly that. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> And that would make the question racially biased, how? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Scott Stroz >>>>>> --------------- >>>>>> The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who >>>>>> are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas >>>>>> Jefferson >>>>>> >>>>>> http://xkcd.com/386/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:299338 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
