On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Vivec<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Sam..can you explain this line to me:
> "If valuing CDOs were so impossible, whey did the collapse of that market in
> late 2007 precede the broader collapse of more normal securities?"
>
> What's the answer...why did the collapse of that market in late 2007 precede
> the broader collapse of more normal securities, and what does that have to
> do with valuing CDOs?

I'm seeing double.

> And moving along..how about this line:
>
> "But securities fraud this isn't. As
> McArdle<http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/07/matt_taibbi_gets_his_sarah_pal.php>
> reminds
> Taibbi, there was this whole Eliot Spitzer-led inquisition on Wall Street to
> ensure that the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing -- so a
> company can sell a product and its traders can be short it, and that's
> okay."
>
> What's he really saying in that long sentence?

Are you making fun of his Editor?

> And again:
>
> "Taibbi brings this up in the beginning, ticking off names of famous Goldman
> alums, but other than talking about their role in fighting derivatives
> regulation, they don't seem to do a whole lot for the company. You'd think
> he'd explore that more."
>
> In Taibbi's article he notes specifically how they have helped Goldman
> Sachs, by funnelling money to them when necessary, since by some happy
> circumstance they were all in the right place at the right time.
>
> The author launches into his closing statements with:
>
> "That being said, there are two good points that come out of this. First is
> his prediction that cap-and-trade will prove to be the next bubble or at
> least market for financial chicanery. Of this we have little doubt, and it's
> why Goldman and GE are so eager to create this new market where none
> currently exists."
>
> Wait...What?? Here he is saying that Goldman Sachs is actually orchestrating
> a new previously undeveloped market to create the next rounds of Bubbles and
> financial chicanery.
> What?
>
> Is this guy agreeing with the fact that Goldman Sachs is corrupt and
> responsible for the past bubbles, but not agreeing with Taibbi's reasoning
> for saying that?
> Or is he saying that Goldman Sachs is NOT corrupt and is NOT responsible.
> And if it is the latter, then Sam can you explain his closing statements?

He's not defending GS, he's just saying Taibbi's an asshole.

> 2009/7/14 Sam <[email protected]>
>
>>
>> Don't have to, someone else did.
>>
>>
>> http://www.businessinsider.com/matt-taibbis-goldman-sachs-story-is-a-joke-2009-7

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