Robert,

I would like you to be honest and truthful if you can.

How do you feel about the actual, honest to god lies and untruths being
pressed through organized Republican operatives?

Things like direct quotes from Nancy Pelosi of things she never said.

And untruths about numbers and actions.

Not the political half-truths and scare tactics (however despicable I
personal find them), they are free speech, and somewhat fair game.

But purposeful untruths and known lies.

Do you think they are ok? Do you think they are just part of the "game"? Do
you find them as distasteful as I do?



On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> oh.. I think you are drnking the koolaid again. Why is it ok to sic the
> army
> on peace activists and this is not? Do you seriously think they are
> advertising a surveillance campaigm? On their website? UM. I suspect they
> want a heads up so the president doesn't look stupid at press conferences,
> and who can blame them? I do think it has a kind of true believer edge t it
> and I don't plan to participate; I also do see some potential for abuse if
> the wrong person had the info, which may or may no happen, but should be
> treated as if it will, just because
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Robert Munn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:10 PM, denstar wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Remember when I said once we give up the power it's pretty hard to get
> > > back?
> > >
> > > Can you blame them?  Crap man, anyone who's read any history at all
> > > saw the danger right away:
> > >
> > > "Give us the power to protect you"  -- sure.
> > >
> >
> > We've been over this territory before. There were far more powers assumed
> > by
> > the government during the Civil War and WWII and those powers were
> > eventually surrendered. This is totally different. There is no national
> > security interest in reporting people's exercise of free speech to the
> > White
> > House. It's a purely political move designed to help the Administration
> > push
> > their policy goals. The irony is that they are using Big Brother tactics
> to
> > respond to criticism of their legislative goal of health care reform that
> > is, rightly or wrongly, being criticized for its Big Brother qualities.
> > That
> > kind of stuff just plays into the hands of critics who see nothing good
> in
> > the creeping power of the government.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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