Let me guess, you spent a few years as a lawyer? Or maybe a Latin teacher?

Kennedy left a woman to die and did nothing to help her or try to
summon help. You don't think there is any culpability there? Oh, yea,
I forgot, he was a Kennedy, and we all know they live by different
laws.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Gruss Gott<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Scott wrote:
>> I think Jayson Williams should have been sent to jail too.  What's your 
>> point?
>>
>
> You said, referring to Sen Kennedy,  "In my mind, that is killing someone."
>
> Thus the basis of your comparison is randomly making up shit that the
> law, even of time, doesn't agree with.
>
> So my point is that your comparison ist koo-koo.
>
> A reasonable comparison, keeping your different-legal-era basis, would
> be Williams since he's both a sports star (as vick is) and he
> accidentally killed someone as Kennedy did.
>
> So if you'd like to be at least somewhat logically cohesive you'd want
> the Kennedy-Williams comparison.
>
> Legally Williams is, thus far, a free man.  However, what does the law
> say about his offense?
>
> -------------
> Manslaughter is a legal term for the killing of a human being, in a
> manner considered by law as less culpable than murder.
>
> The law generally differentiates between levels of criminal
> culpability based on the mens rea, or state of mind. This is
> particularly true within the law of homicide, where murder requires
> either the intent to kill, a state of mind called malice, or malice
> aforethought, which may involve an unintentional killing but with a
> willful disregard for life.
> --------------
>
> Now, let's review again why your Vick comparison is legally moot: mens rea.
>
> "In criminal law, mens rea – the Latin term for "guilty mind"[1] – is
> usually one of the necessary elements of a crime. "
>
> In the case of both Kennedy and Williams, there was no mens rea.
> However in the case of Vick there was not only mens rea, but also
> animus nocendi or the state of mind where Vick was knowingly and
> intending to cause harm.
>
> Thus Vick is guilty of mens rea, animus nocendi cruel
>
> 

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