Even if you took coding samples...who is going to judge right and wrong? As long as it works? I could write really shitty code that would run, or I could write clean crisp efficient code that would work to. What about methodologies? It just gets to be too complex.
-----Original Message----- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:58 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Certification Value [was: Getting Future Date + 30 Minutes... ] That would cost unfortunately. I really could not see how that could make any sort of return or have break even point, given the amount of programming that would be required. I've always preferred behaviorally oriented tests, like you describe, but the cost would be prohibitive. regards, larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:45 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Certification Value [was: Getting Future Date + 30 > Minutes... ] > > > What I'd like to see is a free-entry exam where it asks you > to write some > code that will take a given set of data and do something with > it using CF > code. It would then have a copy of the CF core built in and > attempt to > execute the code. Of course then you run into problems with innocent > spelling errors, etc. and would make the exam much longer > (time wise). All > of this in addition to the multiple choice that is already in place. > > -Justin Scott, Lead Developer > Sceiron Internet Services, Inc. > http://www.sceiron.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:24 PM > Subject: RE: Certification Value [was: Getting Future Date + > 30 Minutes... ] > > > > I agree. I took the test in November of 2000 and there were some > > questions on there for tags that I never use. Plus there > were some SQL > > questions mixed in as well as a few basic web questions. I > think it was > > a well rounded exam. I was a beta tester for the CF 5 exam and gave > > some feedback and will be beta testing the MX exam, I try > to let them > > know what questions I like and don't and offer some > suggestions. There > > is only so much you can test with a multiple choice exam. But then > > again who has time to grade a free response exam. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:21 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Certification Value [was: Getting Future Date + 30 > > Minutes... ] > > > > Justin having taken the test, I can see the justification > for the 63% > > pass, > > that's actually 39 of 60 questions. Moreover many of the questions > > tested > > more in-depth knowledge, for instance by providing a code > snippet and > > having > > the person select the right answer from several choices, > with at least > > two > > of the answers being very similar. > > > > regards, > > larry > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > http://www.pacel.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Justin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:14 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Certification Value [was: Getting Future Date + 30 > > > Minutes...] > > > > > > > > > > You h ave some really rough public schools in your area then. > > > > What gets you an A? 100%? > > > > > > 94%. The other grades are decrements of 10 below that. > > > > > > > And someone asking a question does not necessarily indicate > > > some lack of > > > > ability. Just because you have a certificate, doesn't > > > suggest that you > > > > > > As I'd said, it was not meant as an attack on the person > > > posting, just a > > > rant about the minimum score required to pass the test. > > > Wouldn't you be > > > upset if someone came to your user group and said... > > > > > > "Hi, I'm John Doe, I'm a Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 > > > Developer. BTW, > > > how do I set a variable?" > > > > > > While that's an extreme example, it would make me wonder if > > > getting/having > > > the certification is really worth it. > > > > > > -Justin Scott, Lead Developer > > > Sceiron Internet Services, Inc. > > > http://www.sceiron.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
