And North America isn't. Where does that leave us? On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > Duh...Larry..it was noted...in the Bible! > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Is there any independent archeological or historical evidence of these >> miracles? For instance something like the Israelites leaving Egypt >> after the Egyptian firstborns were killed, turning the Nile to blood, >> plagues of frogs, the death of the Pharaoh etc would have merited at >> least some mention in any of the stone monuments of the period. There >> are none. Similarly the death of the Assyrians army at the siege of >> Jerusalem again should have gained some records, given how many clay >> tablets they wrote. Again no mention. Both the Romans and the Jewish >> priesthood were very compulsive record keepers, yet they did not note >> any unusual phenomenon around the time of the crucifixion. >> >> With all these very impressive events you'd have thought that someone >> else would have noted something at least. >> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>He was talking about the miracles that were performed in >>>>order for Moses to free the Jews from the egyptians. Yet when it came >>>>to ww2 and the concentration camps, no miracles were seen. Yet the >>>>concentration camps were more of a malevolent threat to Jews than were >>>>the Egyptians. >>> >>> Not sure what the point is here. It certainly doesn't say anything about >>> whether God exists or does not, whether miracles happen or not, just >>> because he did not step in here. Some may argue that he certainly did >>> through the examples of incredible courage of people that helped hide Jews >>> and otherwise risk their lives. You will find most, if not all, of the >>> people in these cases were led by their religious convictions. >>> >>> Biblical miracles were not just wily-nily things. They happened during very >>> specific times and granted to a very small number of people - major >>> prophets. They were always part of times of revelation from God to his >>> people. Sure, we have people claim miracles all the time, whether it's >>> healing a sickness or seeing the Virgin Mary in their toast. These aren't >>> what most Biblical scholars consider true miracles such as seen with the >>> Moses, Elijah or Jesus...miracles mainly performed to call attention to the >>> revelations given from God. We are obviously not in a time of revelation >>> any more...Jesus gave us what we needed to know. So we cannot expect to see >>> Biblical-scale miracles. >>> >>> >>> --- Mary Jo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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