Its amazing how much that cult of hers has managed to take over so much. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ayn Rand has a lot to answer for. > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Cameron Childress <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I think what it does is support both of our points. >> >> I think you and I will continue to differ on that. I'll take this >> thread in a little bit different direction... I really think at it's >> root it's a "free will" vs "destiny" argument. >> >> I feel very strongly that people have free will and that decisions you >> make (particularly early in life) can greatly impact your life years >> later. That someone's decision to cheat on taxes or to hang out with >> a bunch or radicals will effect their life in dramatically negative >> ways. I tend to look at a person's decision to involve themselves >> with radicals as the force that made them the way they are, not what >> the radicals did to the person. That it is still the individual's own >> life choices that lead them to their place in life. >> >> On the other hand - I think that you tend to believe that outside >> forces direct you in life. That hanging out with radicals was not the >> driving reason someone becomes radicalized or does something terrible. >> That it is really the fault of the radicals when someone ends up >> flying into a building - not the individual who potentially chose very >> early in life to enter into a relationship with them. >> >> Further, (and this really goes outside the thread) I think that you >> tend to believe that it is the government's role as protector to help >> guide people to their destiny where I tend to believe that it is the >> individual's role to do that. >> >> Granted this whole discussion does leave out things like genetics, >> disease, race, family, and other things that may influence your life >> in ways that are not a personal choice. >> >> This is really not an argument, just a description of how I have >> internally shape my picture of our different viewpoints on a number of >> things discussed on this list. >> >> -Cameron >> >> ... >> >> > >
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