I prefer Occam's Razor in this case. First off, operationally define free will. I asked for this a while ago, no response on your part. How can we discuss the issue if we are not using the same concept. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_definition
Second, given that definition what mechanisms underlie your definition. by the time you're done, doubtless you'll find that your simple definition is far more complex than anything I've provided. Also its less testable and offers far less predictability. Moreover what does "I make personal choices and take responsibility for the outcome" mean in terms of operations, events and consequences? What are the mediating variables in these cases? I think you get the idea, your supposedly simple version is much more complex. the wording you're using masks the underlying complexity. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Cameron Childress <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> wrote: >> a much more simple explanation is that you are avoiding the discrete >> stimuli that trigger a behavioral response. Or take it one step >> higher, you avoid those situations or cues that can trigger those >> cognitions beliefs and emotions that lead to additive behavioral >> responses. > > If that's simple - pigs fly. > > The simple version is "I make personal choices and take responsibility > for the outcome". > > -Cameron > > ... > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:312490 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
