ummm no because those who attend the funeral have a responsibility not
to kill these reprensible demonstrators, reprehensible as they are.

Note that much as I despise Reagan, I refrained from saying so just
after he died. Some people on this list were actually grieving, and
for all I know still are, but it's no longer the guy's funeral, so at
some point you have to make the historical judgement that yo, this guy
was bought and paid for.

I think the same of Bush, but I am not going to go dance on his grave
at his funeral. So oko, I agree that there is a responsibility to shut
up. But I am not sure how you can enforce that without infringing on
free speech.

I am not sure you can.

PS -- I had to throw in the gratuitous Reagan insult to keep Tim from
fainting when I agreed with him <g>


On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> As much as I despise Reagan and the Bush family, I would also say that
> people shouldn't be allowed to protest their funerals either.  The family's
> right to privacy and their freedom of (and from) the religious beliefs of
> others trumps all of that.  I think it does amount to yelling fire in a
> crowded people.  One of these days they are going to mess with the wrong
> people and a bunch of folks are going to get killed...probably including
> innocent bystanders.
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:10 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc
>
>
> mmm responsibility.
>
> But they have the right to be irresponsible and even despicable. It
> would be responsible to refrain, but... if the Nazi party can march
> through a Jewish neighborhood, if Christians can harrass distraught
> young women seeking abortions, then these wackos have a right to do
> this. It does not amount to yelling fire in a crowded theatre. Quite.
>
> The best solution I have heard so far involves a motorcycle group that
> surrounds the family with its engines gunned. And presumably
> collectively look too big and mean to rush.
>
> The thing is, when does speech become *too* out there? I can't tell
> you how many people told me I was despicable for calling George W. the
> antichrist and a tool. And yet, I submit, events have largely proved
> me right, so even speech that upsets people has value, yanno?
>
> By the way, Ronal Reagan was also a tool. But I refrained from saying
> so during his interminable funeral.
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Eric Roberts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> It's not the right decision.  What the court is saying the Westboro
> Baptist
>> Church's right's are more important that the right of a family to mourn in
>> peace.  An individual's right is more important that the right of a
> church.
>> This is bullshit it is what it is.  While they do have a right to be
> heard,
>> they also have the responsibility to do so when it is appropriate.  A
>> funeral is not the appropriate place to protest with signs that have
> nothing
>> to do with this individual who served honorably in our armed forces.  If
>> they ant to protest outside the pentagon, or outside the Whitehouse, then
>> that is their right.  Where this court has failed is one day they are
> going
>> to cross the wrong veteran's family and someone is going to come out guns
>> blazing.  While I would call it karma, that would have been very
>> preventable.
>>
>>
>> Not only do we need to put up a collection, but we also need to call for
> the
>> impeachment of this judge.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 4:43 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: RE:_Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
>> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc
>>
>>
>> Its unpopular but the right decision.
>>
>> Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: Eric Roberts <[email protected]>
>> To: cf-community <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 21:10:49 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: RE:_Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
>> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc
>>
>>
>> WTF?  *shakes head in disgust*
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:48 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Speaking of the Supreme Court: Marine's_father ord ered to pay
>> court costs to Westboro Baptist Churc
>>
>>
>>
> http://mddailyrecord.com/2010/03/29/marines-father-ordered-to-pay-court-cost
>> s-to-westboro-baptist-church/
>>
>> Lawyers for the father of a Marine who died in Iraq and whose funeral was
>> picketed by anti-gay protesters say a court has ordered him to pay the
>> protesters' appeal costs.
>>
>> Lawyers for Albert Snyder of York, Pa., also say he is struggling to come
> up
>> with fees associated with filing a brief with the U.S. Supreme Court.
>> ...
>>
>>
>> Phelps is a tool.
>> (full disclosure - it's one of my company's papers)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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