Just bored with the man's writing years ago. he went from an inventive writer to a one trick pony.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:50 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jealous? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:59 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere > d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc > > > After Stranger in a Strange Land, I think that Heinlein just rewrote > the same book over and over again. The characters were the same (at > times they were the same character), the situations almost the same > etc. They became libertarian polemics rather than anything decent. > They were becoming so predictable that I'm surprised no one came up > with a Heinlein novel generator based on a mad lib game. > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> maybe it's the "in your face part", think of that. In Stranger in a >> Strange Land I kept think yes yes we understand that you are all very >> liberated and unconventional. So what? I like my protagonists a little >> more complicated. They're both important figures in science fiction, >> don't get me wrong, but we are talking Willie Nelson vs.... I dunno, >> John Mayall. >> >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:28 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> They are both heavy into a philosophy I try and follow. You have a >>> different view of lfe and ethics and morals, not a negative one, just >>> different. If anything I'd say thats probably the problem you'd have > with >>> those writers. They are very obvious and in your face with their satire. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:39 AM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere >>> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc >>> >>> >>> His writing is ok but his female characters just ring totally wrong >>> and it I can't take his books seriously because of this. Partly this >>> is his time (Asimov is also kinda bad about this, but so few >>> significant of *his* characters are women...) and partly -- I don't >>> know. I re-read some of his books because Tim was raving about them, >>> and I just don't get it. Mind you I couldn't get past the first few >>> pages of Atlas Shrugged either. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Eric Roberts >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yup...I have read it. Didn't care for the writing style (I dont like >>> most >>>> writings styles in sci-fi), but it was otherwise a good book. He did > put >>>> some interesting ideas out there...even formed the basis of a Pagan >>>> Tradition (Church of All Worlds). >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:20 PM >>>> To: cf-community >>>> Subject: RE: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere >>>> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc >>>> >>>> >>>> Have you read stranger in a strange land? If not please do. Incredible >>>> book if you can grok it. >>>> >>>> They have public and private spheres in life, and the individual decides >>>> which sphere he is in in most cases. >>>> >>>> Interesting concept. Would be difficult to implement. Man Heinlein was >>> an >>>> incredible mind. What I would give to sit and puff one with him. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:49 PM >>>> To: cf-community >>>> Subject: RE: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere >>>> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc >>>> >>>> >>>> From my reading, it's no so much an enumerated right, but one that is >>>> inferred by the enumerated rights and backed up by several SCOTUS >>> decisions. >>>> One article stated that Justice Louis Brandeis cited the 14th Amendment >>> as >>>> an example of this. They also used the phrase the right to be left the >>> hell >>>> alone...heheheh >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:45 PM >>>> To: cf-community >>>> Subject: Re: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere >>>> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc >>>> >>>> >>>> maybe. I feel there is a right to be left the hell alone. But yeah, >>>> privacy may not be the best word. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:42 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well, as Denny mentioned. The rights enumerated in the constitution > are >>>> not >>>>> our only rights, just the ones they wrote down. >>>>> >>>>> I just think "privacy" is too loose a word, and we would need to have > an >>>>> amendment clarifying what it means. >>>>> >>>>> Shit I think we need a new constitutional convention. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:14 PM >>>>> To: cf-community >>>>> Subject: Re: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere >>>>> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> true but it's a pretty established constitutional extrapolation. >>>>> Sometimes judicial activism is needed. I personally think that it does >>>>> not arise in the constitution because it's not an 18-century concept. >>>>> The United States was so sparsely populated then that it really wasn't >>>>> hard to be left the hell alone. This is less so now. But isn't that >>>>> really what underlies all of the other rights? The right to be left >>>>> the hell alone? >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:52 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Also the word privacy is never mentioned in the constitution, it's an >>>>>> invention of judicial activism. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: G Money [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:31 AM >>>>>> To: cf-community >>>>>> Subject: Re: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere >>>>>> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Eric Roberts < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The family's >>>>>>> right to privacy and their freedom of (and from) the religious > beliefs >>>> of >>>>>>> others trumps all of that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Their right to privacy is protected, in so far as the protesters are > not >>>>>> allowed on the private property of the cemetery, but must remain off > the >>>>>> property to carry their stupid signs. >>>>>> >>>>>> If these people were carrying signs that said "God bless your son for >>> his >>>>>> service", you wouldn't be up in arms about it. My point is that it's > not >>>>>> really their privacy that you are worried about, it's the type of >>> speech. >>>>>> >>>>>> America and her freedoms are not easy. They were not obtained easily, >>> and >>>>>> they are not defended easily. Our military protects our freedoms from >>>>> armed >>>>>> assailants domestic and foreign, but we citizens are the last great >>>>> defense >>>>>> of what our country really stands for......freedom. These assholes > test >>>> us >>>>>> as citizens of a free country. Is our devotion to freedom of speech > just >>>>>> rhetoric, or are we capable of passing the test and suffering those > who >>>>>> would test the limits of our freedoms? >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't fail the test. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Everybody knows the war is over >>>>>> Everybody knows the good guys lost >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:314668 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
