Well said and that is exactly what their response should have been. Instead McChrystal and others try to brush it off, or in the case of the raid I posted, try to cover it up. That is poor leadership and poor leadership is what leads to incidents like this. When you have good leadership, these instance are rare and not the norm. Whether it is prisoner abuse or soldiers going apeshit and raping and/or murdering civilians...it is a direct result of poor leadership. We saw the same thing in Vietnam that we are seeing here. I would say that is a symptom of an occupation that has been in place too long...longer that our forces are capable of supporting. People start to not care, or are so angry after seeing many friends die that they start to lose their humanity and end up doing horrible things. It's time for us to get the fuck out of dodge.
Eric -----Original Message----- From: Vivec [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: This is not good.... That's fine, and understandable. But somewhere along the operation, things seem to have drifted from the rules of engagement to something else totally. In my view the only correct response from the Military would be to START by saying,"Listen...our guys broke the ROE...they f***ked up. We're looking into ways to stop this from happening again. We're having guys go through retraining, refamiliarisation with our ROEs...new oversight.." whatever.If it should not have happened, and if the Military actually thinks that its a problem...then act that way. However, if the Military thinks it is just collateral damage, tough nuts sucks to be them,think of all the soldiers that have died...then I guess they don't really need to do or say anything. One should remember though that the Military force ultimately exists to serve the civilian populace. The ROE exists for a reason. On 6 April 2010 10:15, Chris Stoner <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am in Iraq (as a civilian contractor) and can assure you when the rockets > start flying over the wall it sure feels like a military zone. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:315154 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
