hacking an fool does not mean the guy is any less guilty. That said, I think the guy got a much stiffer sentence than if he had done the same to a neighbour.
Equal justice before the law has often been shown to be more of an ideal than a practice. I think that this is a typical example. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > > I do, especially in this case. She testified at his trial and when > they asked her why she chose such an easy-to-guess security question > she said that she wasn't trying to keep the answer secret. Headsmack. > > See my point? > > Mind you, the idiot at Yahoo who wrote the stupid question, which > would be easily guessed in almost everyone's case, deserves to be > painted pink and made to walk naked through the Castro District. That > person should have known better. > > And so should she. She was the governor of a large state and is a > sure-fire presidential candidate. She didn't see the point of a secret > question that is secret? Sweet Jesus. She was conducting public > business on that account. > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> OK, first 'crooked politician' is redundant. You cannot get to the >> level VP or presidential level without some skeletons in your closet. >> SOme are juts better at keeping them hidden or making people believe >> the skeletons don't actually exist. >> >> I don't think the criteria of 'is the person dangerous' should be the >> only criteria for a jail sentence. Prison is not just to protect the >> general public from 'bad guys' its to punish those who break the law >> (and get caught, tried and convicted). Do I think this guy should get >> a long jail sentence? Not at all, but I think some jail time is >> warranted. as well as some community service. I like the idea of >> teaching people how to secure their online accounts with strogn >> passwords and good 'secret questions' >> >> Lastly, I do not think it matters how he gained acces to her account. >> If you left your front door wide open and someone just walked in a >> took stuff, is it any less of a crime than someone who picked the lock >> to gain entry? >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> he's less than a script kiddy. He's a total amateur. Did he have any >>> kind of a record? You guys are going to make me go read the news >>> stories, aren't you... I do not have time for that shineola! I have >>> stuff to do. But the danger he currently represents to society is >>> pretty small, and the danger to him in a county jail is pretty big. >>> >>> And think of this, if he had had a blog, people would be calling him a >>> citizen journalist and probably giving him awards as well. >>> >>> I don't condone what he did -- privacy is important. But the alleged >>> victim in this case is a public figure whose wrongdoing was exposed >>> through his actions. Where he deviated from eligibility for press >>> protection is that he gave what he found to someone who made political >>> hay with it. (his dad? not sure) >>> >>> I reserve the right to change my mind about this once I get a better >>> handle on what came out at trial, but that's the way it looks from >>> here. >>> >>> And actually, I am not really doing the ethical hacker on you, Scout. >>> I am doing a damage assessment. A crooked politician was mildly >>> embarrassed, Wah, wah wah. As for the term, have used it myself for >>> the guys who were tryinig to get into a client network from some >>> zombie botnet in Vietnam. I spent Friday night working at the Hacker >>> Dojo where "hacker" means a guy who makes stuff work. It's not the way >>> the word is used in the mass media, but they get pretty heated about >>> it there. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:15 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> You're coming at this from the point of view of an ethical hacker and >>>> professional. I assure you on the black hat side of things you know as >>>> well >>>> as I do that the intrusion method isn't as important as the intrusion >>>> itself. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:23 AM >>>> To: cf-community >>>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >>>> >>>> >>>> I know all sorts of people who would tell you that he was not a >>>> hacker, either, just a black hat who now makes money off his >>>> reputation, >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(computing) >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_Ethic >>>> >>>> but I have things to do and am not going to argue the usage as applied >>>> to Mitnick. This kid did not need even script kiddy skills therefore I >>>> don't believe that anyone would agree with you. >>>> >>>> I do however want to say that I do not think that punking Palin merits >>>> a sentence of likely gang rape. Community service perhaps, perhaps in >>>> a hackerspace where he can make himself useful or better yet in his >>>> local library teaching people how to secure their passwords. >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Robert Munn <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> but it's not a jail time thing in a world where Scooter Libby >>>>>> skates. >>>>> >>>>> that subject was beaten, beheaded, cremated and buried. let's not >>>>> resurrect it from the dead. >>>>> >>>>> And by the way, he did not HACK her account. If changed her >>>>>> password by using publicly available information to answer the >>>>>> security question. >>>>> >>>>> that's still hacking. one-time super-hacker Kevin Mitnick did most of >>>>> his damage through social engineering of exactly this sort. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:317108 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
