OK, first 'crooked politician' is redundant. You cannot get to the level VP or presidential level without some skeletons in your closet. SOme are juts better at keeping them hidden or making people believe the skeletons don't actually exist.
I don't think the criteria of 'is the person dangerous' should be the only criteria for a jail sentence. Prison is not just to protect the general public from 'bad guys' its to punish those who break the law (and get caught, tried and convicted). Do I think this guy should get a long jail sentence? Not at all, but I think some jail time is warranted. as well as some community service. I like the idea of teaching people how to secure their online accounts with strogn passwords and good 'secret questions' Lastly, I do not think it matters how he gained acces to her account. If you left your front door wide open and someone just walked in a took stuff, is it any less of a crime than someone who picked the lock to gain entry? On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > > he's less than a script kiddy. He's a total amateur. Did he have any > kind of a record? You guys are going to make me go read the news > stories, aren't you... I do not have time for that shineola! I have > stuff to do. But the danger he currently represents to society is > pretty small, and the danger to him in a county jail is pretty big. > > And think of this, if he had had a blog, people would be calling him a > citizen journalist and probably giving him awards as well. > > I don't condone what he did -- privacy is important. But the alleged > victim in this case is a public figure whose wrongdoing was exposed > through his actions. Where he deviated from eligibility for press > protection is that he gave what he found to someone who made political > hay with it. (his dad? not sure) > > I reserve the right to change my mind about this once I get a better > handle on what came out at trial, but that's the way it looks from > here. > > And actually, I am not really doing the ethical hacker on you, Scout. > I am doing a damage assessment. A crooked politician was mildly > embarrassed, Wah, wah wah. As for the term, have used it myself for > the guys who were tryinig to get into a client network from some > zombie botnet in Vietnam. I spent Friday night working at the Hacker > Dojo where "hacker" means a guy who makes stuff work. It's not the way > the word is used in the mass media, but they get pretty heated about > it there. > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:15 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You're coming at this from the point of view of an ethical hacker and >> professional. I assure you on the black hat side of things you know as well >> as I do that the intrusion method isn't as important as the intrusion >> itself. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:23 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >> >> >> I know all sorts of people who would tell you that he was not a >> hacker, either, just a black hat who now makes money off his >> reputation, >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(computing) >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_Ethic >> >> but I have things to do and am not going to argue the usage as applied >> to Mitnick. This kid did not need even script kiddy skills therefore I >> don't believe that anyone would agree with you. >> >> I do however want to say that I do not think that punking Palin merits >> a sentence of likely gang rape. Community service perhaps, perhaps in >> a hackerspace where he can make himself useful or better yet in his >> local library teaching people how to secure their passwords. >> >> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Robert Munn <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> but it's not a jail time thing in a world where Scooter Libby >>>> skates. >>> >>> that subject was beaten, beheaded, cremated and buried. let's not >>> resurrect it from the dead. >>> >>> And by the way, he did not HACK her account. If changed her >>>> password by using publicly available information to answer the >>>> security question. >>> >>> that's still hacking. one-time super-hacker Kevin Mitnick did most of >>> his damage through social engineering of exactly this sort. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:317104 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
