It's called negligence.  And here I thought you were a conservative and all
about personal responsibility...

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:19 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!


So, there you go. You do indeed support blaming the victim. And here I
thought you were a liberal.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I do think there should be a penalty assessed when you get hacked and it
is
> because you have a weak password.  Imagine how many IT headaches that
would
> solve.
>
> I think the moral of the story is that if you are going to do something
that
> is illegal...make sure you use a strong passwords and a good encryption
> scheme....or at least one good enough to stop a teenager ;-)
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Medic [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:36 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!
>
>
> Well, kind of. You could say the lid on the mailbox is akin to a weak
> password on your email. However it's kind of a moot point.
>
> The common argument here, and one which you seem to be parroting is the
> "don't be surprised if..." argument. This I think loses the plot a bit
here
> as I don't think anyone is arguing about being surprised about the email
> getting hacked with a weak-ass challenge response. However whether a turn
of
> events is surprising or unexpected doesn't make the crime any more or less
a
> crime.
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Eric Roberts <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> That's even a bad analogy.  The mail box isn't locked and cant be (or how
>> else does mail get in), while your email is supposed to be secured.  If
> you
>> want to stick to the snail mail analogy, then maybe a PO box and you
leave
>> your key hanging on the box at the post office.  But again, if you don't
>> secure thing and you leave it wide open, don't be surprised when someone
>> comes it.  Not leaving it secured is akin to putting a neon sign over it
>> and
>> saying come on in...especially if you are a public figure.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Medic [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:54 AM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!
>>
>>
>> I don't really think comparing it to breaking into a house is a very good
>> analogy. I think it's probably more accurate to equate it to taking mail
>> out
>> of someone's mail box. I believe this is a felony. And if someone did it
>> you
>> would blame the victim by saying "well the mailbox wasn't even locked."
>>
>> I think it sucks that some kid who guesses a password gets time, but it's
> a
>> crime and a massive, premeditated invasion of privacy. We need to protect
>> that privacy, especially now as we're losing more and more of it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 



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